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Re: Hmmmm….maybe I should try Ulysses again…
... not very. I have little time to read for my own pleasure... I do want to read it this year.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 15, 2008 at 2:08 AM
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Hmmmm….maybe I should try Ulysses again…
..perhaps we could share thoughts as we move through it. Are you far along with it?
posted by
ammon
on October 14, 2008 at 9:04 PM
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Re: Oh I agree totally about the literary value
- I recently found the first copy of
Ulysses in print after the Supreme Court ruled it should be allowed in the US in an antique store. I am reading it now... a difficult read to be sure...
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 12, 2008 at 9:56 AM
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Oh I agree totally about the literary value
of The Odyssey. I suppose that I said “funny” just because it holds a personal significance to me. Have you read Joyce’s Ulysses and do you see it as a modern parallel to The Odyssey? If find it glaringly different, almost to the extent that it is impossible to compare the two, and yet scholars invariable return to the comparison, time and time again.
posted by
ammon
on October 12, 2008 at 8:46 AM
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Re: Funny you should mention
Hello - Why funny? and no, no special significance. I have am a literature teacher... and it like any other work (people think only the bible holds this special power) I learn something new each time I read and teach it.
By the way... The Odyssey was once taught in Greek schools - just like the bible is taught in religious schools today... and as an inspired work.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM
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Funny you should mention
The Odyssey? Does it have a special significance to you?
posted by
ammon
on October 11, 2008 at 8:00 PM
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TC.. I have come to understand that there is a blog in most anything..

Cheers!
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM
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Thanks ... probably did not help that I was in the middle of explaining via text to some idiot guy.. that I do not hold conversations via text messaging...
Think there is a blog in that? How the hell are you?
Cheers!
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM
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gotcha!

BTW.. I get it
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 11, 2008 at 6:47 PM
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OTA. - your questions were not too much... just a bit frustrating. I layed out the historical context - not an interpretation - I teach literature.... that is what I do.... and well... your questions were too reminiscent of my students when I do the ground work.... and they still don't get it.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM
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TC, sorry if my questions were too much, truly it is not my intention. Your interpretation of this story is quite different from any I have ever heard. Thank you for sharing . ~OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 11, 2008 at 6:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: So.. wine is better with water in it?
Good Gravy... they watered it down even more... inferior/bad/less potent. The more water... the less potent. They were running out of water... he had to stretch the water...
What do you want me to say? You win it was a miracle? Sorry... I am too well-read.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 11, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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Re: Re: So.. wine is better with water in it?
"Everyone serves good wine first, and then when people have drunk freely, an inferior one; but you have kept the good wine until now."...
so the wine was better.. the wine they always had water with as you desribe.. that is my dilemma.. why would it be better now? and if they were out of wine as his mother said.. where did the good stuff come from?
questions questions... signed.. Dunno 
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM
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Re: sam444
the standard stumped Christian reply. Love you... but there you go.
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 11, 2008 at 6:10 PM
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Re: So.. wine is better with water in it?
... we are talking about the pure fermentation... all wine has water in it that we buy... it is in diluted form. During ancient times.... or Biblical times (sheesh!) it was kept undiluted - in wine skins until it was served... they had to add water... or else it would have had a dangerously high alcohol count. They of course did not know about the physiological elements... like some ignorant folk today... they blamed/attributed everything to the gods. I "dunno" about what you "dunno"... do you?
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on October 11, 2008 at 6:09 PM
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It is all about faith! sam
posted by
sam444
on October 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM
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So.. wine is better with water in it?
I dunno about this one TC..
posted by
Blue_feathers
on October 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM
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