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mordent, I am one of the most objective people I know
I am actually very great at looking at things from both sides. I do not see it all as 'black or white'. And there are areas in the conservative thinking that I do agree with.
But of course none of that matters to you at all, since you made it clear that you had labeled me from the get go and have already decided every little thing about me because I am only 'one dimensional' as far as you are concerned. In your mind I must fit into a poorly conceived generalization that you use to judge everyone by. In fact I would have to say that someone who uses generalizations to classify people is the one who sees the world as being black and white. You have already made it very clear that all people are horrible to begin with and not worth the effort of putting up with, which is saying it is almost all 'black' and that only you and those few you consider above the rest of humanity are the 'white'.
If you really think I am angry or unhappy, then you don't know me in the least. You have no clue at all about my life.
I can get along great with people who's ideas differ from min, as long as they understand and show respect. All I do is return to people the respect I receive from them. if I can't get along with someone it is because they decided to not show me respect to begin with.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 22, 2008 at 8:52 AM
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Re: Are you really that naive?
the problem is you live in good old black and white USA. It sounds like your existence is either surrounded by Bible thumping rednecks or Liberals.
Believe it or not I wouldn't know what to do in that situation either. And naturally if someone kept shoving the bible down my throat from a young age I may have turned into a liberal also. Someday maybe you can just look at the world from a truly objective standpoint and you may end up agreeing with some views on both sides.
That's good that you have people who help you. And it's good you liberated your wife. But you should stay away from people whose ideas are too different. You will only end up being more angry and unhappy.
posted by
mordent
on October 14, 2008 at 11:12 PM
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Are you really that naive?
I have known people who get off on messing with people's mind. They play sad little games that are fully about destroying all sense of self that person might have. They very often do that by using childish generalizations and degrading remarks that are all about dehumanizing them.
I had to fight hard to keep my sense of self at various times in my life. The reason I am the liberal (FREE) minded person I am today is because I fought against brainwashing that some many conservative minded jackasses tried to push on me and they did all they could to destroy my free-will and individuality. I was able to keep a sense of self and hold on to that in order to become strong enough that their games no longer had any impact on me.
My wife on the other hand grew up begin brainwashed by her conservative family and ended up with no sense of self, no individuality, until I came along and basically treated her as a real person. She now forms her own views, which do not always agree with mine. She shows actual confidence in herself and her choices in life and just feels good to be alive.
Not all people are as blindly selfish as you. I know that for fact. I have surrounded my self with a bunch of very giving people who look out for one another and are ready to help a friend in need.
More and more you really are painting the image of you being the kind of person that I do all I can to avoid in life. You do not try to lift people up or help them better themselves. You are much more concerned with tearing them down just because you can and then trying to make them feel it was all their own fault.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 14, 2008 at 9:14 PM
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Re: No, it is bleak and depressing view you have of humanity
I said mutual masturbation not mental masturbation.
I also told you sex for sport is fine but it's not the true purpose.
I never messed any womans mind up. No one messes anyones mind up except that person themselves. If you allow someone to mess your mind up, then that is your fault for being weak. Then again you're a brainwashed cultural commie feminist kinda guy so of course a mans always got to be the bad guy.
Once and for all liberals and repubs are both selfish. Quit thinking libs are for everyone. They're just for their own as well.,
posted by
mordent
on October 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM
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No, it is bleak and depressing view you have of humanity
Of course I now understand you so much better. It is not homosexual marriage you are really against, it is marriage in general that you just don't understand. You are too selfish, to immature. You are the kind of guy that really messed my wife up before we got together. The kind of guy that screw women over all the time, by playing games with them and basically destroying their sense of self.
Now sex for any purpose other than procreation is in your own words 'mental masturbation'. Then why have sex at all if you are not going to have kids? You obviously have a very low opinion of humans in general, so why give a woman any pleasure? Or is sex with you no pleasure at all for the woman and all about you getting off?
Seriously, the image you are painting of yourself here is one that I have no respect at all for. If you are as you are claiming, then it is those like you who basically bring the whole of our culture down with a total lack of morality and empathy. I really do get the impression that you don't care at all about anyone but yourself, which does very much fit with conservative values.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 13, 2008 at 1:32 PM
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Re: What a bleak and horrible world view
I'm just stating sex and loves primary purpose. It's nothing horrible about it's just fact. You can have all the sport sex you want. But I really enjoy it with multiple partners instead of just one. But thats me.
Enjoy.
posted by
mordent
on October 12, 2008 at 7:41 PM
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What a bleak and horrible world view
Do you find any joy at all in life?
Is there anything in life worth living for by the reasoning you use here?
I enjoy sex with my wife, even after over a decade of being together and we cannot have any more kids. If anything that allows us to enjoy sex in a whole different way without the worry of birth control.
Seriously, this whole post was one great insult towards life in general. I enjoy life way too much to allow myself to get caught in such depressing concepts as what you are expressing here.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM
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i didn't mean to reply 3 times
posted by
mordent
on October 11, 2008 at 1:32 AM
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i didn't mean to reply 3 times
posted by
mordent
on October 11, 2008 at 1:32 AM
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I mentioned that sex for sport can be fine but many are going thru this serious process of love without paying their dues of marriage and committment.
Usually this blows up in peoples faces. In other words why get serious if you don't plan on the whole process. Just keep it casual,
Yeah animals can probably do all kinds of unorthodox sex that doesn't mean we should emulate them. THough monogamy is definitely against human nature.
We agree about loves purpose but I won't call it normal. One doesn't behave in a normal manner when in love. One can get obsessive and irrational and do a bunch of dumb things for love. Love is neccessary but hardly normal.
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mordent
on October 11, 2008 at 1:31 AM
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I mentioned that sex for sport can be fine but many are going thru this serious process of love without paying their dues of marriage and committment.
Usually this blows up in peoples faces. In other words why get serious if you don't plan on the whole process. Just keep it casual,
Yeah animals can probably do all kinds of unorthodox sex that doesn't mean we should emulate them. THough monogamy is definitely against human nature.
We agree about loves purpose but I won't call it normal. One doesn't behave in a normal manner when in love. One can get obsessive and irrational and do a bunch of dumb things for love. Love is neccessary but hardly normal.
posted by
mordent
on October 11, 2008 at 1:31 AM
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I mentioned that sex for sport can be fine but many are going thru this serious process of love without paying their dues of marriage and committment.
Usually this blows up in peoples faces. In other words why get serious if you don't plan on the whole process. Just keep it casual,
Yeah animals can probably do all kinds of unorthodox sex that doesn't mean we should emulate them. THough monogamy is definitely against human nature.
We agree about loves purpose but I won't call it normal. One doesn't behave in a normal manner when in love. One can get obsessive and irrational and do a bunch of dumb things for love. Love is neccessary but hardly normal.
posted by
mordent
on October 11, 2008 at 1:31 AM
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I enjoyed reading your thoughts! sam
posted by
sam444
on October 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM
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posted by
BC-A
on October 10, 2008 at 1:27 PM
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There is much more to sex than mere procreation from a biological viewpoint. Humans are a social species, with selected, hard-wired morals and relationships within the context of the population. And this is hardly unique to humans. A species of Cnemodophorus lizards, all female, stimulate each others' genitals. Bonobos have sex in various forms, include male homosexual encounters. There are lesbian monkeys in Japan. These sexual encounters strengthen bonds between individuals, and are good for the community. It works for humans, too. Love is not a mental illness; it is a normal emotional state, selected by evolution for its adaptive value for the species. It can also be a lot of fun.
posted by
mousehop
on October 10, 2008 at 8:07 AM
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