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Re: mousehop
I contend that it is not a lack of trust on my part that results in the absence of interaction between me and God. It is absence of one of the principals. We have more than five senses, if you count the full functioning of the mind, and I do try to keep myself open to all kinds of input. But only those that exist have any effect, so far. Many forms on contact or communication with things outside me have been described to me, but never experienced, and I claim that is not for lack of effort on my part. I have had much more success in learning about the origin of the Bible and other such books than in finding truth in their contents. Humans have great imagination, but despite all our efforts, we have to make contact with any other truly intelligent, sentient beings. I am satisfied with that, but not certain that it will always be so. I am, I suppose, arrogant enough to believe that if there were a God, I would have found Him. But I did not . . .
posted by
mousehop
on August 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM
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Ariala and corbin
thanks.
posted by
calmcantey75
on August 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM
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Excellent.......
I really enjoy reading your posts.........thank you!
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on August 22, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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mousehop
I understand your point but I am not talking about the observation of natural law. What we observe in the natural world with our five senses, then process with our natural powers of perception and reason, and then come to a conclusion is not neccessariy enhanced or impaired by one's possession of, or lack of, childlike ability to "trust." One can operate independantly of each other. A "childlike trust" is the willful acceptance and confidence in the authority of God when it perceived. Of course the ultimate authority figure is Jesus Christ. To reject His yoke of authority is to reject Him, and naturally eventually deny His existence. The reason for rejecting His authority is because of a lack of trust. The waters are poisoned. That is not to imply that you yourself or any non believer is evil or "poisonous", it simply means the ability to trust in God is sullied.
posted by
calmcantey75
on August 22, 2008 at 10:29 AM
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The Basis of Unbelief
Being an unbeliever, I have often been called cynical, but I don't see myself that way. I am, I can say, blessed and cursed with a good memory and an introspective personality. I review my experiences constantly, and I draw the natural conclusions. Every day, when I drop a rock, it falls. It doesn't matter whether I allow previous experience to drive my expectations. The rock falls anyway. That is the nature of things.
So it is with matters of belief and faith. However many times I set aside my unbelief, I end up where I was, because the world acts according to its nature. It is not a lack of innocence that brings me to unbelief, but simple honesty. I see what the world is rather than trying to make it fit what I am told it is supposed to be. So, now, which of us is more like a child?
posted by
mousehop
on August 22, 2008 at 8:40 AM
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Well put and welcome back!
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Ariala
on August 22, 2008 at 5:30 AM
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