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Re: Re: I actually feel a lot of sympathy for anyone in the position of Pope.
That's what I'm screaming....and neither did most of them, and neither does the current one.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on July 23, 2008 at 5:52 AM
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Re: I actually feel a lot of sympathy for anyone in the position of Pope.
FineYoungSinger - Religious aspect aside, I know it is the type of a job that I wouldn't want.
posted by
gomedome
on July 22, 2008 at 9:39 PM
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I actually feel a lot of sympathy for anyone in the position of Pope.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on July 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM
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rhondanelle - first off; a belated welcome to Blogit
You pretty well hit the nail on the head, at least in terms of what I think motivates me. Of course some others see it quite differently, from my being a mentally disturbed, hate filled lowlife, to my being possessed by the devil. The truth of the matter however is that I truly believe that our species and even our very planet, will not survive the gods that mankind has created. Then we must consider the dynamics of blogging itself; controversy fuels rankings which in turn garners readership. . . . I will concede that in what you have said and amongst the perspectives of others that I have outlined, that to some degree . . . they all could be true (except maybe the lowlife part).
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gomedome
on July 22, 2008 at 9:55 AM
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Our basic beliefs seem in agreement...
Although, our differences rests in the expressions of how we declare it and why. Assuming you are endeavoring to slap people awake by giving them a good laugh or drawing a certain reaction that may provoke them to a deeper reasoning power, then this would be a most effective move on your part. There is always that cynical serpent hiding in the dark recesses of the faint hearted waiting to steel what little "faith" may have attached itself to some sort of "religious" rhetoric...and, by your exposure you challenge them to decide if in fact they have confidents in theirself or in a God that is bigger than their belief system.
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poetperson
on July 22, 2008 at 9:25 AM
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Re: What bugs me about debates on religion how fast they heat up.
Pat_B - The funny thing about the guy I am speaking of in this post is who he actually is. He is the inventor of ultra violet light sterilization as an industrial application. He is not a stupid man by any means but somehow, in his mind there is a conscious entity living somewhere up in the clouds that actually cares about our little day to day transactions. And further can be petitioned with a few incantations to bestow favorable outcomes on those transactions according to him.
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gomedome
on July 21, 2008 at 6:47 AM
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Re: Gome
Sunnybeach7 - from an outsider's perspective, and this is true of anyone outside of any belief system, I often wonder if those who would disparage another sect within their own religion fully comprehend how small their differences are? Especially when viewed from the outside and one might fairly say objectively.
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gomedome
on July 21, 2008 at 6:42 AM
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What bugs me about debates on religion how fast they heat up.
Reason and civility go out the window, the irrational takes over. Nonbelievers often flare up and burst into accusation and invective along with the "faithful." The sticking point: some commonsense ideas for living mix in with magic and fantasy. One idea: "by their works shall you know them." I've heard prayers for success in corporate boardrooms, heard guys in important suits express the assumption that crooked, exploitive business practices are blessed by god.
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Pat_B
on July 21, 2008 at 5:52 AM
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Gome
I would agree...all Christians are Christians.
Just the same, I would agree...all Pagans are Pagans. I may not follow the same beliefs as some of them...not even close...yet...still very much of the same.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on July 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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Re: Dark_Moon - it was the line of reasoning that had us exclusively right that
...i agree with that 100%. Moon 
posted by
magic_moon
on July 20, 2008 at 7:05 PM
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Dark_Moon - it was the line of reasoning that had us exclusively right that
was my first doctrinal conflict.
A God of infinite mercy only loves you if you subscribe to a certain version of belief in him? Everyone else, which unfortunately includes the vast majority of mankind, is screwed for all eternity? How can these conflicts possibly reconcile themselves? The only reasonable answer is that they cannot be reconciled, either everyone has it wrong or all religious beliefs have equal value.
I vote for the latter, all religious beliefs of every kind have equal.
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gomedome
on July 20, 2008 at 7:01 PM
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Gome, I've been on the planet for quite a good while now and it never ceases to amaze me how Christian sects, denominations, say, overtly and/or subtley, that other Christians are "not really Christians", or "not true Christians", or "have good intentions but, are misquided", or are "not true believers", or are "going to hell for what they believe", or, and this the best, the workings of "the Anti-Christ". It's just amazing. I grew up in a rural area where 90% or better of the population was Catholic and, according to the Catholics, we (meaning my parents) Protestants were the ones who could not get into Heaven. It wasn't until later that I learned that so many Protestants and the other Christian sects think that the Catholics are all going to Hell. Jesus! What a bunch of bullshit! What a f*cking mess! Later, I spent a number of years with Jewish people. Equally perplexing is how this group who claims something like 2% of the population and bemoans their dwindling numbers through intermarriage and Jews becoming secular, argue vehemently among themselves about who is really "a Jew" and are hell-bent on excluding large numbers of Jews as being "non-Jewish". I think I'm going to start my own religion and according to me, I'm the only one who will get into Heaven. At last I'll have some peace and quiet. It'll just be me and God in Heaven and everyone else will be in Hell. I just hope that we won't be able to hear all of the screams and stuff. You can come too if you want but, I have the feeling that you'll pass. Moon
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magic_moon
on July 20, 2008 at 6:12 PM
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