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posted by mysteria on July 16, 2008 at 6:30 AM | link to this | reply

mysteria
Your thoughts are quite fascinating - the way your mind works and wanders.  I wonder if consiousness begins in the womb.  I wonder if it's electronically weaved into the circuits of our being at the moment when our heart begins to beat or is it when our ears begin to develop or our limbs reach out to touch. 

posted by Hilow on July 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM | link to this | reply

I have never really thought about, but you have inspired me to do so! sam

posted by sam444 on July 15, 2008 at 9:27 AM | link to this | reply

Conciousness...
Is that which thinks about itself.

posted by food4thought on July 14, 2008 at 8:16 PM | link to this | reply

Consciousness is only verifiable to itself by itself
Since we can only know it in "others" by its marks/footprints compared to our own experience with it of it, we cannot test for it with experiments like we can test for action - reaction.  Since we can only know it in "others" by its marks/footprints compared to our own experience with it of it, we cannot test for it with experiments like we can test for action - reaction.  You can be conscious without showing signs of consciousness too.  This has been proven by people who have been declared dead, who later on related memories they could not have had without being conscious whilst tested as being clinically dead.  Atheists in particular find it very easy to acknowledge that they themselves are conscious, although they cannot explain how that came to be (some have tried but have always had large holes in their arguments) but very difficult believing that it can be anywhere but in the psychophysical control center (brain).  Because of it's elusive nature they will never be able to disprove its presence anywhere either.  If we only believe what can be proved by one set of criteria (scientific experiment) and disregard the findings of people who have spent lifetimes getting to know it's nature by studying it in themselves, we have become rather estranged from ourselves as conscious Being, present and expressed in and through appearance/form.  Reducing any phenomena to its constituent parts only makes it easier to engage and manipulate it for some or other purpose, it never tells us anything about the nature of the whole/gestalt.  For instance, many philosopher (and make believe philosophers) have tried to reduce religion to something or other, be that a function fulfilling activity in a larger social framework or a function fulfilling activity in an individuals psychological makeup.  They always end up with a very limited perspective of the phenomena in question.  They are like a person studying a stone and ignoring water who then tries to explain the whole earth on the premise that it is exactly like the stone and nothing else is relevant.  I should perhaps stop commenting here before it turns into a book.

posted by AardigeAfrikaner on July 14, 2008 at 7:18 PM | link to this | reply