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Re: Sira890,
Glenn, you're more than welcome to "protest" and debate and discuss. But when dealing with people, you will also behave accordingly--with respect for others, and a level of maturity that you have yet to show. I am not saying that you are wrong; indeed, you may have some valid points. It's your manner of expressing those points that bothers me, and that is the reason we're still talking. Incidently, my level of literacy would put you to shame, so it would be wise to watch your words--there was no lack of comprehension on my end, I assure you.
I am still waiting for my apology; you can now add "ignorant" to the list of names you have to account for. I should also point out that the powers that be on this site take a rather grim view of the verbal abuse and personal attacks that you have shown here--The Canadian Charter is not the only document to include a Code of Conduct.
posted by
Sira890
on July 7, 2008 at 9:36 AM
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Sira890,
Reading without comprehension is plague around here! There is both consequence and responsibility in any debate with ignorance (opinion)! I will continue to protest in the strongest terms all ignorant and ill formed opinion! You want "freedom", try the toilet!
posted by
Glennb
on July 7, 2008 at 1:19 AM
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Re: I saw it at Sams Club on Wednesday
Corbin, I should warn you--I'm an indefatigable optimist, especially when it comes to people. Anyone can play nice, if they'll only stop long enough to see how it's done!
And I do love a good discussion on books! 
posted by
Sira890
on July 6, 2008 at 5:38 PM
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I saw it at Sams Club on Wednesday
and passed it by.......but it will be in my clutches on my next visit......
(With some changing the subject does little to lessen the unpleasantness, especially when it is their nature that is the source.)
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Sira890,
Corbin, I do think so, yes!
I noticed you're a fan of Dan Brown--have you read Deception Point? I bought it recently, and I'm terribly excited to get started! Was it as good as his others?
(this would be me, oh-so-subtly changing the subject...I just can't stomach all this unpleasantness!)
posted by
Sira890
on July 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
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Re: Re: Sira890,
The only annoyance I'm feeling here is at one who chooses to live off of being belligerent for belligerence's sake, who feels one has no right to express an opinion unless it falls within the constraints he feels it's necessary to construct............a sure sign of intense insecurity, don't you think?
I do appreciate your discussion. It's really nice to have people engage in exchanges of thought. It's a shame we see the constant digression into attacking the messenger instead of approaching the message head on.........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
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Re: Sira890,
Glenn, it is not a myth. According to The Constitutional Law of Canada: Section 2(b) of the Charter states that "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication." There are similar passages in the American Constitution.
I do not profess to know what is going on in the minds of those soldiers. I have also stated that I am against the war in Iraq--you must have missed that part. There was nothing "vile" or "obscene" in any of my comments. Perhaps you should avail yourself of a dictionary and/or thesaurus before speaking further.
I'm not particularly concerned with what you feel you need from my comments, as none of them were directed towards you.
You have, however, called me a sycophant, and a horses rear end. In a previous comment, you also called me dense. For that, I'm afraid I must hold you accountable, and will again request an apology. If you are incapable of conducting yourself in a manner befitting a gentleman, then you must face the consequences of your words.
I would like to remind you that there are real people reading these words--human beings with feelings and sensibilities. You have the right to speak your opinion. You absolutely do NOT have the right to treat me poorly, or with such casual disregard for my worth as a human being. No one has that right.
Corbin--again, I apologize for the intrusion on your comments page! I can only imagine the annoyance, and will try to keep it from happening again! 
posted by
Sira890
on July 6, 2008 at 2:40 PM
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Sira890,
There is this "myth" being peddled around that you people have some "right" to express an opinion no matter how vile or obscene without any consequence or responsibility. Where did that come from? You want to be able to tell me what someone else's reasons or motivations are? How do you know what made these people re-enlist? How do you know what mind-set occupies these people in uniform?
I need more than you voicing your opinion! I am not sure of your definition of "rudeness", but I am never rude! I will hold you accountable for your opinion!
posted by
Glennb
on July 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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Re: Sira890,
Glenn, there's nothing wrong with my ears--I heard that part loud and clear. The point of the "staged" vow was, I think, not at all related to the war itself, but rather a showing of support for their country, and a promise to protect their way of life.
Considering the way most young people act today--selfishly, without any concept of the cost of the freedoms they now enjoy--I think it's admirable that these young people came out, and publicly announced their willingness to fight for that freedom.
Incidently, I wonder just what you've done to get your own hands dirty, other than sling insults at people who merely express opinion? I'd love to be able to read Corbin's blog and make comments without being attacked....but it seems you are incapable of making a point without calling me names. I'll be expecting an apology, by the way, for that unnecessary rudeness. And I'll thank you to mind your manners in the future.
posted by
Sira890
on July 6, 2008 at 11:25 AM
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Re: Re: GOOD FOR THESE SOLDIERS!
don't get the point do you?
our gov't has put itself in a military action where there might not be enough able bodied people to use. it is desperate for warm bodies. we might see a rosie picture, but it's not.
all we see if what the gov't wants us to see.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM
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Corbin Dallas,
How much do you really know about what motivates men to murder for pay? You exposed yourself as a patriotism "hoe" long time ago! It does nothing for me when I see people manipulated to satisfy the insane?
posted by
Glennb
on July 5, 2008 at 5:22 PM
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Re: Sira890,
I understand that your judgement on this is clouded because you based it on your own standards and mores which are obviously based on relativism......
Many, in fact a hell of a lot more that you would ever care to admit, actually get a goosebump or two when they see these guys and gals standing up and demonstrating their beliefs through their actions......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 5, 2008 at 5:13 PM
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Sira890,
I suppose you two sycophants did not notice the "say your name" in unison? Again this was another one of those "staged" Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush moments! They must be paying you two horse's a... pretty well! The rest of us who get our hands dirty are tired of the charade!
posted by
Glennb
on July 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM
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Re: GOOD FOR THESE SOLDIERS!
Hmmmmm? If they've lowered their standards perhaps you might now qualify?????
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM
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Corbin,
Personally, I'm against the war in Iraq, for several long-winded reasons. At the same time, I find it quite heartwarming that so many soldiers came out, to publicly make an oath like that.
Did they get some publicity for it--sure. But I think, for the individuals who repeated those words, it was a show of solidary, courage, and commitment to protect their country. That's pretty impressive, I think.
The "war cry" at the end was my favorite part!
posted by
Sira890
on July 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM
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GOOD FOR THESE SOLDIERS!
you forget about the multiple tours of duty that are sapping the morale of thousands of others
and the army is now taking people they hadn't taken before
felons
less physically fit
older
etc.
you don't mention or maybe realize how desperate the armed services are to get recruits for a war that many Iraq veterans themselves are calling a bad action, so much that they;ve formed an organization against this war, like the VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) -- this time it's Iraq Veterans Against the War (pretty sure that's the name).
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 5, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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Corbin Dallas,
I obviously have a different view of this "staged" mass support for crimes against humanity! Re-enlisting in the military is an individual decision! It is not the same as taking the initial induction "oath"! Unless I am missing something this was an insane publicity stunt or maybe our military knows there is no threat of attack from the people of Iraq? Why would you assemble such a large number of soldiers if you were in a "real" war zone?
Sad, this is a further setback to the credibility of our humanity!
posted by
Glennb
on July 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM
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