Go to Religion in the Modern World
- Add a comment
- Go to Creation Science Evangelism - what is it?
vickip - the agenda to prove that dinosaurs are found in the bible gets
even funnier when you begin looking at all of the references to dragons.
There is no disputing that the traditional belief of Christians pertaining to references to dragons in the bible has always represented Satan. Yet now, these clever clever people want to insist that because the word "dinosaur" was not coined until the 1,800's, the bible authors actually meant dinosaurs with all references to dragons in the bible. (I wonder if they also think that dinosaurs breath fire and have seven heads?). Where this type of nonsense is of concern to normal people is in that the agenda is gaining momentum and has a number of detrimental repercussions for the rest of society.
The most important concern is common knowledge pollution. Education does not move forward as easily if some segments of the population are pulling in the opposite direction with an anti-education agenda. Telling young children that scientists cannot be trusted, creating fallacies with the singular objective to reconcile the bible and generally dividing society into two camps are all part and parcel of the agenda. The end result is this massive blob of irrational thought that discards reality in favor of fairy tales. HERE is a perfect example, a children's lesson on creation science, which is manufactured and premised almost entirely on bullshit. (excuse my French)
posted by
gomedome
on May 26, 2008 at 8:34 PM
| link to this | reply
It's times like this that I wish I had skipped the drug phase of the 70's!
Or maybe I should have done more? I will have to research this more gnome ... I get right carried off when I start reading these theories and their objectors, before you know it I'm wondering if the beasts described in Joab seemed so huge because humans would have been so much smaller during their time ... and dragons, I started reading about dragons. Focus ...
posted by
VictoriaP
on May 26, 2008 at 5:18 PM
| link to this | reply
vickip - Re: I see what you mean gnome ....
In the typical manner that those with an ulterior agenda attempt to dismiss evolution, "polystrate fossils" or those fossils that appear to stand upright through several or more layers of strata, becomes an attack point. The truth of the matter is that there are a number of reasonable explanations for such a fossil to form but none are universally applicable to all findings of polystrate fossils. The effects of water, such as massive flooding, erosion and sedimentary deposits are at the root of most explanations for this phenomona. In some cases it is believed that trees growing at lower land elevations (again, quite often formed by water) is the simplest explanation. A scientific theory that has as much corroborative evidence as evolution cannot be summarily dismissed as bogus because of a few things we do not have good answers for but that is exactly what these people are attempting to do.
posted by
gomedome
on May 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM
| link to this | reply
I see what you mean gnome ....
He writes the tail extends far behind him not unlike the cedar ... whereas the verse from Jaob only says the tail moves like the cedar. So then I got lost somewhere reading your reference to the author .... and I found this:
"What about whale fossils and petrified trees that stand upright through multiple sedimentary layers supposedly separated by millions of years?" I did not know this ... wow, hmmm?
posted by
VictoriaP
on May 26, 2008 at 1:30 PM
| link to this | reply
Xeno-x - that is my beef with this type of thing
They go as far as calling it a college level course and imply that it will be recognized by most colleges as either an elective, a religious course, or even a science course. The reality is that it will be recognized by virtually no mainstream colleges. When the premise is examined a little more closely it is less than flimsy. The fraud begins to be recognized in this phrase: "This description, which perfectly fits an Apatosaurus, is a paraphrased description taken from one of the oldest books of the Bible, Job 40:15-24. If dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years, how could a writer of the Bible have accurately described the appearance, food, and habitat of this creature?"
This is the problem: "a paraphrased description" . . . the man re-wrote a bible passage to say what he wanted it to say and is attempting to utilize it as a scientific premise. Without his editing of the passage it only implies that the author is witnessing a large animal he has not seen before: HERE . . . this type of fraud is indefensible.
posted by
gomedome
on May 26, 2008 at 10:08 AM
| link to this | reply
I link to your source on Creation Science
same story -- selling something -- making a buck.
flimsy anything
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 26, 2008 at 9:23 AM
| link to this | reply
So I click on your lnk to Creation Science Evangelism 101
The book is $55 and the video $99
Right there seems to be the main purpose of promoting the course.
I read no further.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 26, 2008 at 9:21 AM
| link to this | reply
mysteria - it is at the very least nothing more than subjective thinking
When it is considered that this bible passage
HERE, is what this so called college course is based on, the substance of what is being proposed exists only in the author's mind.
posted by
gomedome
on May 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM
| link to this | reply
i think it is circular thinking
and it is apt to satiate the masses which in turn gives reasonable thinking little berth
posted by
mysteria
on May 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM
| link to this | reply