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Om tut sut..Thou art that..very deep & meaningful words...
thank you both SoulB & Kosmic for an enlightening dialogue! - Ash
posted by
ash_pradhan
on May 25, 2008 at 8:57 AM
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Very good blog Dave ~
--- you've been considering and contemplating. This is good ~ your knowledge bears wisdom -
Write on!~ Elyse (
I personally believe God is OmniPresent, OmniPotent and Omniscient)
posted by
elysianfields
on May 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM
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Re: Soul this was a beautiful and excellent post,
Yes I agree. Actually, scientist are saying that at this very moment the universe we live in, presently, is being sucked through a black hole. Can you feel the rush! Like being on a roller-coaster.. Hang on!!! WEEEEE!
And yes, `why all the fuss about evolution... I`m the first to admit that man hasnt`t evolved much in recent times (the last 15 billion years or so) 
In fact we`re headed in the opposite direction in these dark times (I think that`s called retardation)
Peace
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM
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Re: Re: aaah yes creation....ummm
The spark is always returned to that place whence it came, hence the fire... What more can be said really...
Peace profound JRG
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:49 PM
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Re: Re: aaah yes creation....ummm
The line I love best in this post is:
I have known the feeling of love when all hated me. This is Who and What God IS you see? God is that feeling, entirely. In one of my pieces, a piece i wrote a long time ago, I said something to this effect (I don't have the piece here in front of me so I'm only paraphrasing) " Now the greatest Love is the love you send, when you yourself feel unloved... something like that. I know I practiced that for years before i could actually do it, the ego just wouldn't let me Ha! Ha! Ha! 
Peace Soul
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM
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Re: mai
Not bad for a catholic/yogi
You're right, more and more we hear science referring to God...
God as LIGHT!..
and they're right
God IS LIGHT! Wasn't it Jesus who said
" I am the light of the world, or something like that??
"We are all connected by strings of Light" is what I say...WoWzaa!!
Much Love -JRG-
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM
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Re: Re: To: What if God takes all the air around us
God is Air, Air is God. Let me suggest this: There is no Giver, and there's no Receiver...well maybe in football
, there's only
BEING... Can you feel it!!!
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:26 PM
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Re: Re: Aww yes how we came to be...that is the question
Hello Soul Builder: First of all a small correction. if you go back to my comment(s) on big bang, you'll read that i did not say 'how could anything exist prior to the big bang'
Second of all , in response to your statement above, and I quote, the only problem I see is explaining God. Well I agree, you've got a real problem going on there 
May I suggest that God cannot be explained. Look beyond the eyes in your head. The brain, at this very moment, is rendering everything you see so you can enjoy the beauty around you. I'll not go into details on how the eyes work but you can google 'how the human eye works, and you'll see that it works on a reflective process, blah blah...blah blah... One thing I do want to say though is this: Although every thing you see at this very moment is let's say a reflection of God, nothing, or no thing reveals God. That is the mystery. God, in other words is self-revealing. Attempting to explain God is a mind habit. God 'revealed' is a heart matter altogether.
Re., your question: What is the first situation to exist? The bible suggests that God is without beginning and without end. Incidently, all the great books ever written on God, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads, etc.. all agree on the fact that the world, or God, is without beginning and without end. This should answer your question. If there wasn't a beginning and there is no end, this = no first situation. make sense? You can go to my blog "Diary of a pen warrior and read my piece entitled: 'The Illusion Of Time'.
Re., your question: Was it God or nothing? In the poem "The Illusion of Time' there's a stanza which reads:
Here now, now here,
nowhere to be found See how the words now here, if conjoined, form the word nowhere? {There, Ive just reflected God, but not revealed anything 
) The Zen way is the way of no thing, a vast emptiness, a vast silence. In that realization God is nothing, or no thing. God, I suppose, could also be viewed from this point of view, as being everything, or every thing. Who cares? It's only point of view. It's like trying to explain the whole room to someone, when all we have at any given moment in time is a rendering of the room from some point of view. I say this: Until God reveals Itself to you, all points of view are irrelevant (this includes this one's point of view)
Next question: If so where did God come from? All I can say is: You tell me...
Let me end by saying this:
Every poem I've ever written, reflect God, and not one of them reveals God... Don't you find that's odd? There, I just wrote another one...
Much Love to all...JRG
You can also visit my other blog at http://thethumbs.ca. There I narrate a weekly chronicle entitled ' chronicles of a pen warrior'
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM
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"
Earth could very well be a minor player in the scheme of things." -interesting write indeed!
posted by
NighthawkNY
on May 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM
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Re: Soul this was a beautiful and excellent post,
Thanks Callista! There is so much we don't know. Evolution theory is crap. The theory of re-incarnation is also crap. You do good in one life and reap it in the next? The actual reality is that Earth has always been a case of big guys rule the small guys by force. If the small guys don't wizen up and kick ass, it is going to continue. Re-incarnation is true only in the sense of your spiritual development. The physical vagaries are created by the big guys.
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 10:07 AM
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Re: Aww yes how we came to be...that is the question
Thanks Kosmic. How could anything exist prior to 'big bang' to give a 'bang'? You got that right. The only problem I see is explaining GOD. What is the first situation to exist? Was it God or nothing? If so where did God come from?
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM
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Re: To: What if God takes all the air around us
Thanks Kosmic! The Elites are doing that ALREADY WITH CHEMTRAILS. Maybe we need GOd to give us air!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:57 AM
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Wigopa
Thanks! What you say is true. Maybe one day, we will all know the truth. I think though that some truth has been cited here!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:55 AM
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mai
I am a Catholic too. I am glad for being one. I am a yogi too, and just as glad. It is not that all science is bad. There is good science. There is science that admits God. In fact, finding one's link with God is a science...experiential science, different from physics and other sciences. Thanks!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:53 AM
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Re: aaah yes creation....ummm
I think you concluded well. Intuition is a communication link between the spark and the fire. The competence of the spark to relate the 'intuited' is important. I have been saved ,miraculously, from death several times. This is the foundation of my FAITH in a God. Yet, I have known the feeling of love when all hated me. And, all was experienced within. Your concluding line spoke of THAT. I agree. The hindu scriptures say THOU ART THAT. God exists without religion, but religion can help you with guidelines. Thanks Bro!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:48 AM
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Re: Awesome!
Thanks kolekshuns! Glad you appreciate my efforts!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:36 AM
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sam444
Creation theory, as spelt by the bible, is used by atheists to disparage all possibilities of creation as a fact. Yet, they rely on pre-existing elements and processes for evolution to be paraded as fact. If there was nothing, then how come there was something, to start with? Shackleton has to know his motives and intentions. I read people because if I don't, unlike some people here, I get no reads. Besides I love to read! Thanks sam!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 24, 2008 at 9:35 AM
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Soul this was a beautiful and excellent post,
You summed it up exactly right, we do not know much about our own world we are to busy using it up.
I always wondered why such a big fuss about evolution, God could have planned it that way. And if anyone believes this universe is just for us they are very egotistical.
Universes within universes if we just look. This post was very exciting to me.
posted by
callista22001
on May 24, 2008 at 8:45 AM
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Aww yes how we came to be...that is the question
Let's speculate on that for a moment...
the scriptures say that God is without beginning and without end... Ok, if that be true, then we never came to be because there was no beginning... and there will be no end, because is simply without end... Sounds like a good deal to me.
Now, let's approach it from a scientific point of view, the Big Bang for instance... Question: Did the big bang create the space, for all the universes to exist presently, or was there space prior to the big bang so the big bang could go Big bang! in the first place?
Now I just confused the hell out of myself 
JRG
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 1:38 AM
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To: What if God takes all the air around us
Well, for one thing we won't be able to pollute the air anymore...
posted by
Kosmic
on May 24, 2008 at 1:22 AM
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Aww the creation of life..Many have wondered, thought, debated and fought over how we came to be..Awesome write!
posted by
Wigopa_
on May 24, 2008 at 12:20 AM
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creation?hmmm...Well, I'm a Catholic and we strongly believe that there is God and God is responsible for all these things around us...science?comes from the intellect of the people created by God...intellect that is given by God...trying to outgrow Him...just like the people building the tower of Babel? God is the source of everything...especially the air that we breathe...
What if God will stop the existence of the air around us...? 
...thanks a lot for dropping by at my blog...
posted by
_mai_
on May 23, 2008 at 10:39 PM
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aaah yes creation....ummm
A poet pens words to paper, hence a poem. Should we conclude that the poet is the creator of that poem? In the realm of appearances, it would seem like a logical assumption; but an assumption nevertheless...
A consideration: Should we assume that a creator exist, and conclude that this is so based on mere presumption? And, if a creator does exist, where is that creator at any given time, or for that matter, where is the creator located in space? As you can see this assumption gives rise to space & time. Now we need the help of a scientific mind to bring some sense to a simple consideration...ummm
Back to the poet... if the poet is indeed the creator of the poem, who or what created the feeling impulse in the poet to jot down vowels and consonants prior to jotting down vowels and consonants?...ummm
The atheist proclaims: There is no God, creation can be explained in scientific terms, blah, blah, blah. To the atheist I say this: God has to exist for you to believe in the non-existence of God.... ummm (atheist runs away)
On the other hand, for one who believes in God, it's always based on just that - 'belief' -. Most of the time belief in God stems from a sense of fear, a feeling of being separate from God, and the life of the seeker takes on the form of seeking, hence 'seek and ye shall find'. And that search for God, if you observe carefully, is always undertaken when some tragic event or crisis takes place. When things are going relatively well, it's always fuck God! God is never sought nor required to make a presence when life is moving along at a bearable pace. Have we not all noticed this? ummm...
Is creation, or God the creator, nothing more than a convenience? Is creation, this realm we live in, God's creation, and if yes is the answer, then God is not doing a very good job at tending the garden, wouldn't you agree? O O O I can hear someone in the back saying, 'yes it's God's creation, but God has given us free will to do as we please with it'. What I hear from this is that somehow we're co-creators with God. God provides the potter's wheel and we mold the clay in any shape we want, good, bad, or indifferent.
So which is it going to be? The theory of Creationism or the new theory just offered in the former paragraph Co-Creationism. ummm...
Maybe it's neither.
Personally, I know who or what pushes my pen at any given time in any given space. And I'll tell you in all honesty, whenever the pen of the mighty pen warrior is wielded, to the warrior, time and space simply vanish, a non-issue at best... In that moment I become enraptured, God is located, and I am simply the servant of THAT!
Peace profound JRG
My blog can be located in cyberspace, anytime :) at http://www.thethumbs.ca
posted by
Kosmic
on May 23, 2008 at 9:45 PM
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Awesome!
I love your blogs. They are terrific! Thanks for sharing.
The creation is so awesome, it is hard to understand it all.
posted by
Kolekshuns
on May 23, 2008 at 5:49 PM
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Sometimes I contemplate if we will ever understand anything about creation. I agree with you that Shakelton is a fine poet. I ave followed your lead to encourage him to read so more would find his work. I don't know that he has. He is floating around S. America right now so this is a good time for people to check him out. I have posted a couple of times to encourage people to check him out. There are so many blogs here where the talent is awesome but the don't seem to get readers! sam
posted by
sam444
on May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM
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