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FineYoungSinger - the under-educated are only a small part of

the problem.

It is the shaping of young minds with religious beliefs replacing fact, that poses a much greater concern for the rest of society.

posted by gomedome on April 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM | link to this | reply

Re: FineYoungSinger - that's really the crux of the matter
...and the question then becomes what is the agenda hiding behind this propaganda being pushed on the population's undereducated segment?  After all, it's those who don't know better that fall for this stuff. 

posted by FineYoungSinger on April 17, 2008 at 9:02 AM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - I would suggest it has been going on since man first walked erect
In recent decades there has been a new aspect to the ongoing effort of doctrinal reconciliation. That being the acceleration of discovery at a pace never before seen in history, resulting in a far greater number of ongoing challenges to ancient religious dogma. The resistence to these increased challenges has subsequently become much more concerted. 

posted by gomedome on April 16, 2008 at 3:16 PM | link to this | reply

FineYoungSinger - that's really the crux of the matter
Truth and reality are absolutes. Attempting to uphold beliefs that can no longer be adhered to in the light of new evidence is as you say, not seeking truth. It is merely engaging in an exercise of forced reconciliation, which inevitably leads to altering truth and realities to support foregone conclusions.

posted by gomedome on April 16, 2008 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

this has been going on for decades

ever since Darwin propounded his theory

as evidence mounts for Evolution, creationists rehash the same tired old inadequate explanations in spite of the evidence against their position.

posted by Xeno-x on April 16, 2008 at 1:46 PM | link to this | reply

Sounds like they're taking lessons from the media.
I just worked with a master's candidate on this very issue---the exclusion of science and history from religious study and why it's a terrible mistake.  The argument that I advised her to make was that if you need to exclude known facts from your evaluation of spirituality, then truth is not what you seek.

posted by FineYoungSinger on April 16, 2008 at 7:11 AM | link to this | reply

ZenMom - I find myself doing the same thing
 . . . and it is not only science that seems to be the enemy, sometimes basic rational thought and logic seem to be under attack.  

posted by gomedome on April 16, 2008 at 5:14 AM | link to this | reply

I try, I try, I try to be non-judgemental when I read these posts of which you speak.....but, the people in the Jesus/Bible camp....they depress me.......I get the STRONGEST sense in my gut that they have completely CLOSED their minds to science (although they will deny this). Sometimes, I begin to type a response to one of their posts, only to delete/delete/delete/delete/delete....after all, what's the point?

posted by ZenMom on April 15, 2008 at 5:02 PM | link to this | reply