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Corbin Dallas...
Old Byrd, yes I know.
posted by
Justi
on March 21, 2008 at 2:02 PM
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Do you know anybody who is KKK
posted by
Oosthuizen
on March 21, 2008 at 6:35 AM
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Justi.....
Good morning...You've got an interesting topic.....and one that piques many responses. As to your titled question......
The only one I know of, is a Senator from West Virginia....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on March 19, 2008 at 6:42 AM
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Wiley
Thank you so very much. He has brought a pig into the temple!!!!!!!!!! Opra was a member of that church but she has come out and is doing a new bible to accompany the New Age sort of Christianity! God bless you for seeing what I see, I have wondered if I was blind.
posted by
Justi
on March 19, 2008 at 6:25 AM
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Justi
Well I really can't comment much except to say it's strange that a man talking so much about racism comes from a black only church, led by a man who profaned the ground it's set on.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
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Justi, are you sure you read the whole thing from beginning to end. You have taken what you want totally out of the context. It is written about black students (alumni) at Princeton University and how their experiences there effected their relationships with their own black people.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 18, 2008 at 8:51 PM
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Taps
doctoral thesis: She is basing her concept of community on I am not trying to encourage or discourage you into anything. I just told you that I appreciated your coming to my page to say your concerns. I tried to stipulate mine. As for Michelle Obama's use of the writings of separatist writings of the 60-70 era, tells me and a lot of both black and white that she is separatist. This is a time when many of us are trying to get the intergration the Blacks complain and rightly so is out of whack. It was my feeling the intergration should have begun at the end of the Civil War. The world was working on intergration and the writers she is quoting from that time are arguing separatism in the black community. Some people kept their children out of school. I thought putting the children together was the right thing to do and mine went without a hitch. A few years later the college campuses are full of separation mostly. It is the concept that no matter how nice they were to her she felt they saw her blackness first and her second...Is that not exactly what she is doing in reverse. It is the double standard that is so much a sham. I am not trying to change anybodies thinking. I am saying if we go back to segregation which we never left we are back to slave days for both colors. It is far better to look at situations and forstall them if possible than to go head-long into them and can't turn around. This is not progress.
posted by
Justi
on March 18, 2008 at 8:39 PM
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Ariala
It is not nearly all about color, it is about 'this is okay for me and not you! When that comes into play it is a troubling situation.
posted by
Justi
on March 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM
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Justi, good post...I was shocked to learn today that he's been attending
that church for 20 years. I can't stand racism, whether it's from the white or the black, or any color for that matter...
posted by
Ariala
on March 18, 2008 at 7:56 PM
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Justi, Thank you for encouraging me to read Michelle Obama's doctoral thesis titled, "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community", written in 1985, her senior year at Princeton University. I don't know if that's what you intended, to encourage me to read it, but that's what happened. (One can access and read the full thesis here:
Part 1,
Part 2,
Part 3,
Part 4.) I found it quite fascinating. It took me back to that era and the happenings of that day. For me it was quite educational in that it not only answered some questions that I had, but it helped me to understand some people and some incidents in my own life. I must say that I did not see "hate" in those pages as you inferred. And, I see no hate in her current demeanor or words.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 18, 2008 at 7:50 PM
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I agree Justi
Racism, by definition is "The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others; Discrimination or prejudice based on race."
I have heard it said, on more than one occasion that "white people are racists". Well, I hate to burst their little bubble, but that statement alone is a racist slur.
If you believe that I am judging you based purely on the color of your skin, or the country of your birth, or your religion, and you are basing that belief on the color of my skin, then you're a heck of a lot more racist than I've ever been.
I'll leave it at that Justi, because I don't want to write a 'novel' in your comments. But thank you for having the guts to talk openly and honestly about this--it's a sensitive topic, and one that, I think, needs to be addressed.
posted by
Sira890
on March 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM
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DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO IS KKK
IMO, Justi, in order to examine anything it must be in a "neutral" state. To pretend to examine Afro-American's sensitivities while holding a grudge, for whatever past reason(s), only serves to bring the conclusion that was pre-sought. And we no longer have --quite truthfully -- time for abstract conclusions to serve our purpose. And, Afro-Americans are no different. They need to do a lot of hard thinking, seek and give forgiveness no matter how painful the first step. And it will be hard . . . witness the baby steps on both sides. How gingerly we walk, too many times confusing a rope for a snake. joab
posted by
joab1
on March 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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Excellent post, Justi
This is where I find fault with Obama's church. It is only for blacks, it blames all white people. The racist troubles will never be reconciled as long as there are those who think, act and talk like that. That is not only hate speech it is war talk. Wright's connection with terrorist countries only add to that. We know Obama knew of his travels to these countries. How can anyone believe it is a safe bet to think Obama did not know about this hate as well. His wife's doctoral thesis was a total hate paper.
The thing is, you're not allowed to openly make this sort of analysis, otherwise you're accused of the very same thing they're purporting. Church is for one God under all. It knows no color. And this sort of discrimination is not what Dr. Martin Luther King had in mind. I wish some people would really take the time to really read his message, and not conveniently pull it out when you need to make a good speech.
posted by
NewYorker_in_Sicily
on March 18, 2008 at 10:56 AM
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