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Hi Justi!
I'm glad to see that you continue to be as non-PC as ever. Good for you!!
It's such a fine line to walk, isn't it? Wright's (I cannot call him "Rev") diatribes are horrid, if you want my opinion. I can appreciate that Blacks have been so badly wronged over the years, but rather than bring about healing of the races, Mr Wright, it would seem, has only sought to drive the wedge deeper between the races. In attempting to empower his fellow African Americans, he lifts them up while spewing venomous words towards whites.
I have huge respect for several African American pastors who have gone on record attempting to heal the rift (one being Dr Tony Evans), and they have done so by empowering their fellow believers to reach out in love to all peoples, no matter the color of skin, no matter the injustices done; they have taught about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. Those pastors, I believe, are heroes. Their words and actions will have a far greater impact than the angry, strident words of Mr Wright.
It is true that it was Africans who sold their fellow Africans into slavery. This does not justify the Americans who bought them and who treated them as less than human. There are many injustices that occurred over the ages, in the treatment of Africans. But how we conduct ourselves in the here and now is what we will be accountable to God for. Which brings me back to Mr. Wright. Has he verbalized such hatred for white people that he will need to be accountable to God for his hatred? I think so.
And by the way -- is it any wonder Michelle Obama said what she did about being proud of being an American for the first time in her life (i.e. referring to her husband)? She spent 20 years under the tutelage of Mr Wright; his words had a profound effect on her, as I am certain they had to have for Sen. Obama.
I ramble. Sorry. I enjoyed catching up with some of your posts. Hugs to you.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on March 23, 2008 at 1:26 PM
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Re: TAPS
Why do you think you made a mistake? You and I don't see eye to eye on this. I am more concerned about being your friend than having you support my thinking. I am radical. I do want your friendship not your anger or hurt feelings. I just consider we don't see it the same. I am going to change the tone of writing in here. You are very precious to me. I did not do any of this to hurt your feelings. Neither of us have changed our minds that does not make either of us evil or wrong in my mind.
posted by
Justi
on March 19, 2008 at 10:44 AM
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Not angry, Justi. Just responding because you so often tell me to read your posts and tell you what I think. But, you don't seem to really want to know what I think. You would prefer that I support what you think. I can't do that on the subject of racial prejudice. You may be right in everything you say. But whether or not we are right, we have the right to our opinions. My mistake, was in doing as you suggested and reading you on your opinion blogs. Sorry I caused you pain.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 19, 2008 at 10:18 AM
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Re: TAPS
I concede the first part that racism is kept alive from all races: It is my opinion that the Black race is the most prejudiced in this era of time. I believe what has been done to them is terrible but we are in a new era. I base some of it on much I have seen but also on some of these things. When it is racist for one and not another I have reached my limit.
Your reply in the statement about church is not lost on me. I said or implied the pastor. I said nothing else about others in the church but they were certainly egging him onward. I have never and I repeat never heard a pastor voice derogatory remarks, curse the country, make any reference as to how we vote. If I had been in that church and had not stood and walked out of there I would be as guilty as he.
As for the preacher being judged. There are so many places in the Bible that upholds this: In the last chapter of Revelation we are warned that to change one dot or title of his word it would be better we never had been born. You know I am paraphrasing but there are several places where. There is much scripture about not judging the world, but those of the faith we are to correct.
I am sorry you took offence to this post to my hatred etc.,
You have put me in my place by the last sentence in the pretty aqua type. I didn't say I hated any of these people but I hate the one sided behavior. What about you causes you to be so riled at me about all this. Here it is not about hatred of a person a group of people but the undermining of a country. We have come a long way down the path of derogation since we did nothing about taking prayer out of school.
My Bible does not tell me to sit on my backside and allow horror to come to my door step. I will do nothing more than what I have done, speak out. There is a lot of stuff in what has come out that needs to be understood, disavowed and put to rest before we elect this man as our bountry's leader.
I am sorry I made you angry; however, I stand by everything I said except not including all races.
posted by
Justi
on March 19, 2008 at 6:22 AM
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Since you asked, here are a few of the things you mentioned that I have some trouble agreeing with:
"...racism has is kept alive. It is been through the Blacks..." How about expanding that to include people of all races.
"...I have never been to a church in my life where people talked about Blacks, Muslims, Jews or any other people who were different than we were...." I'm sure that you would never participate in such, but I have never been to a church anywhere, where someone or other didn't.
"...Obama's preacher can't be Christian and Damn the United States and stand there and say it is in the Bible..." You are damning him by this statement. Who are we to say who can or can't be Christian. It is God who judges these things.
"...Read his [Obama's] wife's hate material....." I read her doctoral thesis in full. I found no evidence of hate. This post seems to me to contain more of a spirit of hatred than did the whole thesis.
If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 18, 2008 at 8:42 PM
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TAPS
I so appreciate your comment. It is the way of Christians, friends and those of a democracy to disagree in love. I want to explore this further with you. I will back up my statements or if I can't I will retract them. I love you too. Be blessed.
posted by
Justi
on March 18, 2008 at 7:15 AM
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Justi......
We're not supposed to bring up these things......by doing so makes us racist....don't you understand that?
We're supposed to stand back and allow any form of insane behavior to be directed at us......and just bob our heads up and down in silent agreement.......
Double standards are the way.....and it's not for us to question why.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on March 18, 2008 at 6:37 AM
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You Know,
I can't relate to what happened in the south as I'm a bone-fide Yankee (and Hillary backer, LOL), but I have been asking this question in my blog about Obama...what has he effectively done for the African American community he so claims to be a part of, and why is it that if non African Americans raise questions about Obama, we're immediately painted as racist? I've been getting flamed for it, but I won't stand for it, nor will I shut up about it!
posted by
NewYorker_in_Sicily
on March 18, 2008 at 5:01 AM
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Justi, I love you dearly, but....
There are many things in this post with which I do not agree. I agree with the subject line but that's just about it. May God give you some peace on this.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 18, 2008 at 1:14 AM
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