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Re: FineYoungSinger - Yes, you do win a prize
In this winter wonderland, it will probably arrive frozen solid.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on February 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM
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Xeno-x - that's the problem with any work that is supposedly divinely
inspired.
The obvious is so easily overlooked simply because the words were supposedly given to the author via divine inspiration.
posted by
gomedome
on February 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM
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actually what gets me is another holy book
written in the 19th century
you'd suppose it would in 19th century prose
but no
it's in prose resembling King James, with the thee's and thou's and such
it's the Book of Mormon -- the prose itself tells me of its Inauthenticity.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 28, 2008 at 6:12 AM
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cheugon - the old standbye of giving credit to Satan comes in handy
I wonder if people like that actually think that the citizens of the ancient middle east wandered around speaking in Elizabethan era English prose?
posted by
gomedome
on February 27, 2008 at 7:52 PM
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I got one even better!
Independent Baptist Fundamentalists swear by the King James Version of the Bible, while claiming that all other versions are "The Devils Bible," apparently, completely unaware that the King James is itself a translation. I call them, The Cult of King James. It wouldn't surprise me if they voted for King James in November.
posted by
metalrat
on February 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM
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Xeno-x - it really is unbelievable that so many people can overlook the
history and the obvious changes made over the years.
To insist that a modern day bible is the word of God, truly is the sum total of mankind's wishful thinking.
posted by
gomedome
on February 27, 2008 at 1:51 PM
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FineYoungSinger - Yes, you do win a prize
We will carve a trophy for you out of jello - - hope it survives shipping via UPS?
posted by
gomedome
on February 27, 2008 at 1:48 PM
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problem is every translation takes most of its construction from KJV
which took from previous Latin translations which were skewed toward Church dogma.
KJV was a 16th c Anglican document; subsequent translations are simply extensions of the same.
And the construction of the original works was of human device.
OT -- about 6 different artists compiling & narrating, all put together so as to appear as one work; NT -- letters written 15 or more years after the main events, narratives written 30 and more years after, taken from fragmentary tales; all of these -- canonized 2 - 400 yrs after the latest events by people who weren't there and had made up their minds already as to the nature of things.
the whole structure is built on sand. unbelievable.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 27, 2008 at 10:53 AM
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Well the only reason I can think of is that they're actually words of men.
Do I win the prize?
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on February 27, 2008 at 10:06 AM
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sam444 - that is the inevitable problem
All of the differences in the examples I give in this post are admittedly minor but over time and countless translations or edits, entire phrases can have their meanings changed. Then we must consider that some phrases simply do not translate well from one language to another.
posted by
gomedome
on February 27, 2008 at 8:06 AM
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It is difficult when it says not to alter or change. Yet it happens. I have worked with more than 25 bibles to see what is happening and it is amazing how the meaning can be skewed. sam
posted by
sam444
on February 27, 2008 at 7:56 AM
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