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FineYoungSinger - did you read this post?
If you did, how is it that you missed this statement?
"Of course there is no way to prove this aside from the fact that every church makes a big deal about the piddling few people that have converted to their church" I have arrived at my conclusions by deductive reasoning extrapulated from what I know to be true. In all of your objections, I fail to see your point. Churches should be growing in numbers exponentially if the claims of conversion numbers were the actual truth but instead we are witnessing more diocese almalgamations than ever before in history. I also covered sect to sect conversions in this post, did you miss that part as well? I would suggest that if you want to disprove what I have said; show us something compelling . . . but read the post first.
posted by
gomedome
on February 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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Re: Re: to answer your question:
so find some statistics to back up your claim.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on February 12, 2008 at 11:44 AM
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Re: to answer your question:
FineYoungSinger - Yeah so? The examples you use do not make this statement any less accurate:
"Marriage is in fact the single biggest reason why people convert to another religion in our society and despite the wishful thinking of the nuns, it is traffic that flows both ways." This sentence does not say or even imply that marriage is the only reason.
posted by
gomedome
on February 11, 2008 at 7:07 AM
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Re: sam444 - I'm just curious - did they trot you up to the front of the church
ps: only desparate churches wanting money in the till participate in this kind of thing these days. For the most part, if you go to a Catholic Church and someone is witnessing their conversion, it's voluntary.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on February 11, 2008 at 7:01 AM
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to answer your question:
Because ultimately, nothing changes--particularly people. One could accurately claim this to be true of nearly every demographic.
PS: Regarding conversion, I have to completely disagree. While it's true that many convert to get married in a Catholic Church, many leave to get married in another church. I know several personally that converted for reasons of theology and faith, including this guy. Add to this list Edith Stein; Thomas Merton; Dorothy Day (all unmarried); G.K.Chesterton (married in 1901, converted in 1922, hardly a marriage conversion)...the list goes on.
Sometimes I think you are a little biased.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on February 11, 2008 at 6:59 AM
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sam444 - I'm just curious - did they trot you up to the front of the church
to announce your conversion?
posted by
gomedome
on February 11, 2008 at 6:37 AM
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I converted to Catholism for the reason you stated, unified religion for raising the children. I stayed for 26 years before leaving the church. sam
posted by
sam444
on February 11, 2008 at 3:25 AM
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