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Re: ger musser
Most interesting thought in that these "wonders" actually do enjoy provoking and challenging innocent babes.  The best cure for the innocent babes might be to remove the association, go elsewhere and find people who are "birds of a feather" and much more charitable and honest.  I hate to use the word 'incorrigible', as people who injure others to any extent, whether large or small injury, must be dealt with...hopefully see the light.  The questions is how does this change come about?

posted by ger_musser on February 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: I tread lightly on others, if they are good they do not need ot
Its true.  I have to get back to her story!  Souls have been deceived away from home base. They have to work their way back to that to be OK again. Instead of doing that, they try to  recreate home base where they are: in the middle of their deception. Doesn't work. Love is inseparable from the soul. Become soul again and love is automatically there, without need for conjuration , repeated dosages or vocal back-up! Ego love is just as deluding as carnal love or 'public relations' smooch-smooching!!!! Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 6, 2008 at 10:01 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: I tread lightly on others, if they are good they do not need others
never fear about the lovey dovey thing, it took me ages but i finally learned that not everyone that professes to love you does.  Everyone seems to have an agenda and no one does anything without a motive.  Eulas life will attest to that.

posted by callista22001 on February 6, 2008 at 7:29 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
Shivananda taught me like a Guru through his books. He explained what he could yet encouraged more! Even he  did not disclose about this crooked society. I did not want to comment on yogananda because he was fake, just like lobsang rampa. Google the internet and get the results. His language is superficial and says nothing concrete, nothing that you can practice. It was all posturing! I approached the Gita and Yoga and got what I needed! Hope it helps!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
Oh yeah, I always listen to my inner voice..SRF teachings helped me reach that stage, self-realization..so what is the essential difference between Yogananda's and Shivananda's teachings..and is it really one or the other or both that gives you both the wisdom & the strength ? It's ok if you answer in a post if you think that's going to help others as well..and thanks for your blessings, you take care too ! -Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
I would be careful if I were you. Do not surrender your powers of discrimination to anybody else. Use what God gave you on your shoulders. I studied with SRF for a while but dumped them for Swami Shivananda, then I found my own bearings. Your salvation is up to you! Take care!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 8:29 PM | link to this | reply

Re: I tread lightly on others, if they are good they do not need others
Thanks for the appreciation. If there were no evil, life would be happy. Get rid of evil and it can be so. No lovey-dovey ego posturing should deter you from doing what must be done!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM | link to this | reply

I tread lightly on others, if they are good they do not need others
treading on them, if they are snakes, then a light foot comes in handy.  Being just a simple person that feels alone on a long journey, i read, and when i read your posts it lights the way a little and that is a good thing.

posted by callista22001 on February 5, 2008 at 7:34 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
I know exactly what you mean..we are all spirit.. not body, mind, intellect, ego..i may be new to blogit, but not new to this world :)..btw, Paramahansa Yogananda is my beloved guru..I've been and continue to be a devotee of his world-wide Self Realization Fellowship..I thought Neil told you that...anyway, you have a great blog, bro - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
Will do! There are 2 distinct groups here who are posing intellectual challenges. You are too new to know!  I do respond in my own fashion to their issues and any others which may arise. I have more battles ahead! My last reply is the answer! Those who wish to cultivate spirituality are pushing EGO not destroying it. Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 7:03 PM | link to this | reply

Soulbuilder, my wise friend, now you got my point...
so how about elaborating on my blog..I gave you enough pennies :)..figured no one seemed to be posing you an intellectual / spiritual challenge..so I might as well stick my neck out..all in the spirit of helping each other :)..and of course nobody has the charter for anything here..enjoyed it :)..btw, your last reply says tons, my ready-witted friend ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...
When you get back to being Soul..... it takes care of itself! The soul is the window or link to God. If you go there, intuition functions and that takes care of the being! God becomes the Guru then. No teaching that any man can give can be as relevant or potent! Thank you for pursuing your answers!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 6:32 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...
I don't doubt your potency, but don't you think giving equal emphasis to your own statement that I quoted in my first comment would give a balanced view and better prepare / educate one to fight life's inevitable battles ? - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...
Sorry, I am not waving hands!! That is your conclusion! As for turning on the light.... I do not go in for mass-marketed spiritual prescriptions! I do know how to fight evil! And, if you doubt my potency....I'm still alive!!!!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...
Well, well, well..I shall simply repeat my statement "to fight darkness, one needs to turn on the light, not frantically wave hands" - Ash :)

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 5:47 PM | link to this | reply

punstar
Thanks Neil! I just had a kind of an 'upstarty' comment to deal with. I am alive today because I faced and defeated overwhelming evil. Anyone who moves God-wards is liable to face this. I present this knowledge knowing that those who walk straight will encounter these, and I show them how to deal with it! Yet, those who will not combat their dark sides or don't even accept that such exists, would proffer nothing but their egos and its delusions. I chop both egos and dark sides down with equal aplomb. They will call that hate! While they are knitting words together for a post, It all flows to me effortlessly! Now who is spiritual????

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...
You seem not to follow my logic in dealing with spirituality. Despite your 'learned belief and experience', I feel that you are being carried away by your EGO version of what spiritual life means. Talking and peddling words like LOVE and such does nothing to fight darkness! It is mere cosmetic indulgence... a kind of group hysteria! The soul is already perfect being a spark of God. It is, however, suppressed/ besieged by the dark sides, I call, the tribes and colors, so dominant on Earth. To regain one's soul consciousness, one must fight back. Fight back against the incursions of the evil within and outside! If you don't know the dark side then you are fighting what? If this influence, peddled by both the Elites and the tribes of society is not fought, then no soul consciousness is possible! I have just done posts destroying that positive/negative concept. So don't give me that line! As for 'do us a favor', I don't recall you being a spokesman for BLOGIT or my readership. And as for your time and interest, I really don't go that personal with bloggers! As for my being among your readers, that was a favor to a friend of mine! Soul consciousness is not lovey-dovey as you imagine! Caring is a heap more than that!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM | link to this | reply

Alien Female
Gracias! Mi Amiga! I can hear you now....No hablo!!! LOL!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 5:05 PM | link to this | reply

 thaks for your support. You truly reject EVIL and have very positive vibrations - all the time. Namaskaram/Sitaram

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on February 5, 2008 at 5:01 PM | link to this | reply

Soulbuilder, the following lines in your last para...

"Real proof of divinity comes from things like presence of compassion, silence, flow of new knowledge, seeing the future and elevation above the people of the dark side "..that's what I focus on..honestly, I don't have time nor interest for any of that other negative / dark stuff you talk about...I'm not giving you some flak here, but I honestly believe getting in touch with, sharing & spreading the divine love that resides in all of us is far more powerful in life than fearing the other..to fight darkness, one needs to turn on the light, not frantically wave hands..sorry my friend, but I had to voice my learned belief & experience here, as your posts seem to emphasize only the other..if you agree, please do us a favor and educate us about that positive side as well.. best, Ash 

 

posted by ash_pradhan on February 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM | link to this | reply


posted by AlienFemale on February 5, 2008 at 3:24 PM | link to this | reply

powers
An intriguing post, though I must admit I am purposefully woefully ignorant of most of the people you speak. I tend to shy away from people who produce miracles outside of an autistic child's first word, a dieing child's day of wellness and spirit, etc. But I like reading your stuff, it always makes me think.

posted by kmer on February 5, 2008 at 1:14 PM | link to this | reply

mariaki
I agree as to the original intent. What it has become now is different. Benny Hinn performs miracles to get crowds. Sai Baba does miracles as does Swami Ganapati. People look for the Holy Grail and the Shroud of Turin, not to mention the appearances of the Virgin Mary! I have heard of hindu idols drinking milk! My point though was that the society takes its powers to be from divine origin (it peddles this notion) when in fact they are from the devil!!! Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 10:26 AM | link to this | reply

Sinome
Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I thought of Sivananda Saraswati reading Line 1. You mentioned him in y
Thanks Neil! Swami Sivananda was one of the greatest teachers ever born. His book PRACTICAL LESSONS IN YOGA was my bible in my early years of practice. Later I focused on Gyaan Yoga because thats where the answers are. Unfortunately, there are very few people who see for themselves, so all one gets is regurgitation!!!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 10:19 AM | link to this | reply

Purple M
Thanks! You are right! But what is the use of an expanded dark side dominating your body when you are the owner. Soul gets a body for its purposes, not to give it up to the other side! Plus all the pain they can give to you because of co-existence in the same body!!!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 10:10 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Signs, I believe the Bible calls these powers.
Subsequent to this, miracles and powers have been used to denote spirituality. Sai Baba and others from India are venerated because of their power. Their powers do not build faith but elevates them to holiness! Saints they are not! The shape-shifting girls have a lot of power. This makes them prized by the clones. So, they play games for them to add to tribal armories. To spiritual people, these girls are only dark sides, clones of satan in female bodies! Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I do believe there is a dark side. I know there is evil for I have seen
Thank you Kabu! The dark sides are all around me! They used their powers on me probably hoping to either kill me or to convert me! Discernment is very useful! Scumbags with power equals DEVIL!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM | link to this | reply

CeeMarie
Collective dark souls, I call satan! I know we are OF GOD, not GOD! This is where we differ! David Icke also says we are Gods! I cannot vouch for any of it! Being sparks is not being the fire! Interesting comment, though!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 9:53 AM | link to this | reply

quietguy7
Thanks! Kundalini Yoga is dedicated to the awakening of snake power within. You do a set of meditations moving up the chakras until you reach the head. Instead of fighting the dark side, you unfold its powers, chakra by chakra until you unite it with the soul in the head. Your conversion to evil is complete. They say it is a union of Shiva and Shakti! Shiva, meaning Soul, is not understood by them. It doesn't need any Shakti to be spiritual. Shiva/soul has its own powers!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM | link to this | reply

ger musser
Very poignant comment! Dark side clones operate on a basis so different from people with understanding or 'social conscience'. Power of all kinds, even their superior numbers, motivates them and gets their 'respect'. They wheel and deal, unaware of the real fruits accruing. Their predatory natures tell you to stop them if you can!!! Thanks!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 9:41 AM | link to this | reply

leaderspeaker
Thank You!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on February 5, 2008 at 9:35 AM | link to this | reply

Dave
You are aware that on the whole I am in agreement with much of what you post; having said that I have to point out that the reference to Christ and His miracles should be taken in concept of the times He lived in; these shows were made to emphasize the Word for those that only believe what they see with their own eyes and have no faith in anything unseen.  On the whole though an excellent post; thank you

posted by mariaki on February 5, 2008 at 2:20 AM | link to this | reply

posted by Sinome on February 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM | link to this | reply

I thought of Sivananda Saraswati reading Line 1. You mentioned him in your
penultimate paragraph. Yes, you are a chela indded. Aap Ki Jai Ho!

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on February 4, 2008 at 9:18 PM | link to this | reply

Soul_builder...
nothing else matters to but the lines; "Satan can only take over our dark sides but not our soul!" this can very well stand on its own my dear....

posted by __Purple_Mermaid11__ on February 4, 2008 at 8:59 PM | link to this | reply

Signs, I believe the Bible calls these powers.
When Christ said it is finished, I believe that right then all he requires of us is faith.  Powers and signs are for those who need something visible to believe in the unseen => they lack faith.  I am truly enjoying your posts.

posted by Yeshuan on February 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM | link to this | reply

I do believe there is a dark side. I know there is evil for I have seen it

posted by Kabu on February 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM | link to this | reply

SoulBuilder
I don't believe in Satan but I do believe there are dark souls that outnumber the light souls 10:1. I also believe that we ARE God and until we come to terms with our equality to God, we are left to wander and wonder and stay just as we were made, within your natural character.
Cee 

posted by LadyCeeMarie on February 4, 2008 at 7:31 PM | link to this | reply

I don't believe in

posted by LadyCeeMarie on February 4, 2008 at 7:25 PM | link to this | reply

compelling read
that is very interesting about the yoga i never heard any such thing but i believe it and also yes lets hope that we can keep these evil forces away and not let them get to us

posted by quietguy7 on February 4, 2008 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

Fascinating reading.
I learn so much from your blog.  It is very easy for some humble people to be spiritual, because they have no interest in power.  They only want to love, nurture and care for the benefit of others.  I call this social conscience.  Those who are into power are into flesh and give the flesh of others away wantonly, even though they have no ownership and no right to give away what belongs to others.  A sad commentary and hopefully, these types will learn in this lifetime what giving and caring for others is.  They are certainly injurious to others.

posted by ger_musser on February 4, 2008 at 6:30 PM | link to this | reply

posted by leaderspeaker on February 4, 2008 at 6:20 PM | link to this | reply