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FineYoungSinger - my reaction wasn't quite that pronounced but it does
really illustrate that somewhere in history the train has left the tracks.
I don't see how anyone can literally interpret any of the ancient religious texts. At some point it becomes nothing more than an exercise in personifying hypocrisy. Certain portions must be discarded in a modern world, making the process of picking and choosing what suits people inevitable. This reality levies the responsibility for the use of selected passages for the purposes of discrimination, or the advancement of agendas, directly upon the interpretor. Yet to a person they will claim that they are only following the word of God.
posted by
gomedome
on January 29, 2008 at 7:36 AM
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Re: gome...I am so pissed after reading that site.
Ok, I had to take a breather.
Why I'm pissed after reading that site----the entire issue dehumanizes the victims. They aren't people, they're HOMOSEXUALS. What do we do about this "problem"? This church thinks this, that church thinks that, these denominations think this way, that denomination thinks that way........I wrote a post about it.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on January 29, 2008 at 7:35 AM
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gome...I am so pissed after reading that site.
Talk about utter misinterpretations and teh horrific misuse of Christian love all for the propagation of an agenda of hate. I want to vomit.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on January 29, 2008 at 6:52 AM
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FineYoungSinger - The following link explains the varying perspectives
HERE
posted by
gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 9:49 PM
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Re: FineYoungSinger - homosexuality not being mentioned in the gospels is a
They do argue it, and they rationalize their beliefs, regardless what's actually written. They forget first of all that the bible is just a book; then they forget secondly that the words in that book reflecting the teachings of Christ should always supercede anything written anywhere else in that book, especially the Old Testament. You'd think a Christian, one that places their faith in Christ who is their God, would start in the Gospels, rather than blow them off over the accounts of a tradition upheld and written by people that Christ Himself chided for their misunderstanding of what was written.
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FineYoungSinger
on January 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM
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FineYoungSinger - homosexuality not being mentioned in the gospels is a
suggestion that many would argue.
A great number of people use quotes from the bible to justify their position. The part I find amazing is how the Old Testament is used as much (if not moreso) than the New Testament. . . And by the very people who defend other positions they hold that do not adhere to the Old Testament, by invoking the authority of the New Covenent. I don't get it, how is this anything but picking and choosing what one wants to believe?
posted by
gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 1:27 PM
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Troosha -I will never understand how some people are capable of overlooking
this reality.
The most ironic part of the entire gay therapy debate is that if the hostile social environment for gays did not exist in the first place, a number of things would happen. Conversion therapy would not be needed and the agendas that cloud the issue of determining causal factors would not exist. Subsequently it would not matter why some people are gay.
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gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM
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ginnieb - that is a good point - why do heterosexuals care?
Mostly they care because of fear derived from misconceptions coupled with prejudice premised upon an inherent revulsion. It takes some maturity to realize that no one has to overcome their revulsion, only their reaction to it.
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gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM
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Sunnybeach7 - Re: Hi Gome - how have you been keeping?
FineYoungSinger addresses this comment a little further along so I won't say the same thing but the distinction between gay and pedophile is important. I know what you are saying however.
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gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 1:10 PM
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sam444 - I wouldn't use the word "wrong" but I am revulsed by the thought
Fortunately, no one is forcing me to think about it.
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gomedome
on January 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM
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Re: Hi Gome
Sunnybeach, child molesters aren't "gay". They are child molesters. Molestation and rape are acts of violence. Homosexuality is not about victimization or control of others, but of expressing attraction and love with another human being. These should absolutely not be confused with each other.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on January 28, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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Here is an issue that is much like the plow dropping in the field;
half the dirt goes one way, half goes the other.
I'd like to point something out to everyone: Nowhere in the GOSPELS is homosexuality mentioned. Christ does not discuss it. He does, however, condemn judging others.
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FineYoungSinger
on January 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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gomedome
Exactly… why would someone “choose” to by gay? It’s a life that will be filled with prejudices, metaphorical stone throwing, challenges in finding a long term relationship, the threat of aids, or watching friends and loved ones dying of the disease. Yup – that’s a choice one would want to make! Cured them? How about creating such a sense of guilt that someone is prepared to live a life that’s a lie?
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Troosha
on January 28, 2008 at 8:54 AM
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I like that they use scientific knowledge....
...when it suits them. And then there are those that preach against homosexuality but go out in the dark to find themselves a same sex partner. Are they making that choice or were they born gay? And ya..can't imagine anyone choosing to be gay...choosing to be ostracized by a large chunk of society. And why do heteros care...do they want gays to live lonely and unhappily? Who'd want that of anyone? Crazy minds.
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ginnieb
on January 28, 2008 at 8:38 AM
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Hi Gome
I don't read much around here these days, but when I saw this title in my favorites folder, I just
had to laugh, and of course...come read.
"Of course" one can not be born gay, because if they were, that would mean that these church leaders out there that have molested little boys now and again would have been "born gay", and the church would never put such people in such a high position.
And they know who they are, as they can sniff them out with their super sonic gay-dar.
If these people would just face and accept the truth to begin with, people could go on living their lives the way they were meant to be, and little boys would not have to be molested. 
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on January 28, 2008 at 8:36 AM
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I admire you so much. You tackle the tough issues. I continue for those who are sexually frustrated. To me, it is just wrong to hook up with the same sex! sam
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sam444
on January 28, 2008 at 3:51 AM
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