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posted by
Blue_feathers
on January 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM
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Whysper - exactly - I often wonder if those people so willing to use catch
phrases, realize that they are just minions of religious organization?
And it is quite a responsibility they have taken on when they begin speaking on behalf of the omnipotent one.
posted by
gomedome
on January 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM
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A wonderful insight
It is not religion itself, but the organization of religion which turns it to an ugly thing. I do agree that if there were a single conscious creator of what most claim to be this linear exsistence then it certainly would have an awful lot to answer for.
Instead, there is a chaotic creation of everything possible at one time in one place that we must find our way through on our own. What's more, if a person truelly believes in the concept of one creator being, they have taken an extremely tenuous task upon themselves by presuming to know what that being would think.
posted by
Whysper
on January 21, 2008 at 10:48 AM
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Xeno-x - that is the part someone who would say such a thing obviously
does not see.
The notion of needing to be forgiven for what one believes, should be accompanied by a list of what beliefs need not be forgiven. . . but we both know that this list is comprised of just one set of beliefs - - - the beliefs of the author of such a statement.
posted by
gomedome
on January 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM
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ZenMom - that's how I feel about it - If a conscious creator being exists
I have no quarrel with him other than to admonish him for his callous indifference.
posted by
gomedome
on January 21, 2008 at 8:51 AM
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FineYoungSinger - that's exactly what they are saying
The effects of their brainwashing is so complete that they will convince themsleves that such a self serving statement is actually something else. I've had one person go as far as to say that they made such a statement because of their concern for their fellow man. But it really is only about them.
posted by
gomedome
on January 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM
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This statement is yet another good example of how people that claim
to have faith really don't have faith in God as He truly is. If they did, they wouldn't say somthing like this, because it would be clear that they're using God to hide their own feelings and to cast their own brand of judgment. What this statement really says is this:
"I hope God will forgive you for your beliefs, because I sure won't."
To the so-called Christians that say this, or even think it: How dare you judge.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on January 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM
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On his deathbed, Henry David Thoreau was asked by his aunt: "Henry, have you made your peace with God?" Thoreau answered, "I did not know we had ever quarelled."
-edward waldo emerson
zen
posted by
ZenMom
on January 21, 2008 at 5:21 AM
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they can believe what they wish; but realize that not everyone does
but they don't seem to realize that.
it's a shame that Christians and other religions cannot realize the one simple axiom
not everyone believes as they do and everyone who believes believes fervently.
and those of "unbelief" are fervent in their unbelief.
each individual is convinced of his/her belief/unbelief.
so how can any particular belief condemn any other?
posted by
Xeno-x
on January 21, 2008 at 4:42 AM
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RELIGIOUS "NUTS"
Gomedome,
Believe it or not, I believe more or less exactly as you seem to in this post. (My only regret is that you SEEM to be unduly influenced by the number of religious "nuts" which are apparently attracted to you, mistakenly taking their comments as being representative of the mature Believers of the world.)
As loudly as these "nuts" may scream, I do not think, by the widest stretch of my imagination, that they echo any but the most ignorant views of the novice (no matter the age) Believer. I further think that there are far more real thinkers in the world than the rest of us sometimes seem to acknowledge, who realize that their own reasons for believing whatever they, themselves, believe is more than enough to keep them busy for the rest of their lives. They do not care, or have the time, to be concerned with your or anyone else's beliefs, including my own! That is for you and me to "worry" about.
In the end, I think it will be far more important WHY (our motivation) we believe what we do, than our beliefs, themselves.
At any rate, your post was, in my opinion, an excellent one, and I, for whatever that's worth, applaud you for it!!
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on January 21, 2008 at 2:51 AM
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