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I refer to the Tetragrammaton (YHVH) of the Hebrew Scriptures. This, in essence, means, "Existence". From here I extrapolate my concept of God.
Everything is God, all matter, antimatter, all energy, every process, every thought, word and deed of Humankind -- all that has occurred and existed since Eternity and all that will occur or exist to Eternity.
This tells us that we cannot image God. If we look back over the billions of years of Existence, then we discover that this God as the Universe as an Organism is a progressing and evolving God. The process of the formation of the Universe experienced by Human perception (there is probably infinitely more than all of us can perceive) is one of constant progressing, from a point in infinity to a point in infinity. The known Universe expanded from what is called a "Singularity" in what is described as the "Big Bang", then galaxies and stars developed and earlier, lighter stars supernovaed into heavier stars with heavier elements in them until stars like our sun came into being (probably dozens very similar to our sun came from one Red Giant, and exist very close together [within 20 - 50 light years of each other].
Also developing were organic compounds: amino acids, methane, others, to float between and among the stars and planets, as far as can be detected. I personally ask, could it be that primitive life forms arose from tbese clouds of pre-life? These compounds are found among the planets, notably on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
From these compounds rose prmiitive life on Earth. They arose, died, and from the death came sustenance for new life, which found that if life kills life, then sustenance is derived from that action.
Life evolved to fill all niches possible, like water or air will fill all possible spaces in which it exists.
Life more and more developed Intelligence, until Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) developed.
Humans' perceptions were greater than all life forms before them (that we know), and those perceptions created tools and technology, governments and systems. They also perceived somethingoutside of themselves - saw divinity in all around, from dirt and grass to stars and the moon and the sun.
Humans then developed religion, and religion evolved.
I refer to John I. This is this "Word", this Logos - or "purpose, expression, intent". This is what has driven and does today drive the Universe and Human activity. What it is and how it works, as in John 3, we do not know -- it is Spirit -- and it is like the wind. We cannot see or understand or perceive or image it, and yet we can perceive its "actions" on the Universe and Human activity.
If you look back through history, you will see that Humans have progressed beyond their perceptions of millenia and even a few decades ago.
Personally, I have experienced God. Not the imaged god, but the God I have attempted to describe here. I have experienced what is termed "paranormal" and what could be called "communication".
Altogether I have developed this view of God, and, as you can see, Science has helped me in my perceptualizations. Whether Religion or Science, whatever discovers God and seeks to discover more discovers more and more a valid god.
Whether Religion or Science, whatever embraces archaic and obsolete perceptions fails to see a real God, but persists in holding on to a god that is not only invalid, but is impotent.
We are like fish in a sea, or microbes in a soup, only sensing the impressions of the Whole. Or, like a river, where each drop of water, each rock, floating limb, fish, or whatever, is acted upon by the whole and yet is part of the acting upon, we are inextribly intertwined with a Whole that we can never perceive completely, as if it were a creature from another dimension where we can only see that which exists in the dimension that we perceive, never the Whole, no more than an infinitesimal part of the Whole.
With this in mind, we should recognize the Whole God as something that we can never totally perceive or image in any way.
posted by
Xeno-x
on January 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM
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God
If you want to learn about God, read scriptures between the lines. If you want to know for sure you have to feel his Holy Spirit, and once felt, it can never be denied. Keep on questioning and thinking with the brain God gave you. He's waiting for you to test him. God Bless.
posted by
thoughtfulness
on December 31, 2007 at 10:55 AM
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Re: I have so many questions, that... the Asran Plain
First of all, never feel that you are "bothering" me! I am always willing to try to answer any honest question.
I cannot say either that I believe, or do not believe, in the existence of the Astral Plain. If such a thing does exist, then I must say that I see no way in which it can be proved, except by taking the words of its adherents for it! To me, this is no proof at all. Let's just say that, on this subject at least, I am an Agnostic; I don't know.
From my general mindset on theological matters, I believe that everything which may be desirable to prove is, indeed, provable, and I will concentrate on those, while taking a "wait and see" attitude on all others. In other words, if it is important, it can be proved. Why waste our time believing in anything at all that we can not, ourselves, independently prove? Some may be able to do this, but, to me, it is a waste of my time, of which I have far too little left!
Thanks for your comment and question!
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on December 30, 2007 at 7:40 PM
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Re: Re: Can I ask you a question, please? - Pagan
Yes, and thank you.
posted by
b2008
on December 30, 2007 at 7:01 PM
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Re: Can I ask you a question, please? - Pagan
The word "pagan" has a religious connotation. It was used by various peoples to refer to foreign peoples and their gods; if you were not one of their own kind, having their God as your God, then both you and your god were considered to be pagan and heathern. Ancient Israel was a nation composed of 12 distinct tribes, only one of which was Judah! The "commandments" of "the God of Israel" were often used (often fabricated) to justify the invasion and destruction of other "pagan" nations. It was a territorial thing. (this is my opinion). Others may differ. I hope this has helped.
posted by
GEPRUITT
on December 30, 2007 at 6:50 PM
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I have so many questions, that...
...I feel as if I'm bothering you. Do you believe in Astral Planes? or, astral projection?
http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/FAQ_updated.html#taking
Please favor me with your comments. Thank you.
posted by
b2008
on December 30, 2007 at 4:33 PM
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Can I ask you a question, please?
I've been reading some of the adventures of the Greek Gods and loving it. But why are they considered pagan gods and goddesses? Is it because of the constant fighting and devilish things they did to each other? Just wondering!
posted by
b2008
on December 30, 2007 at 2:50 PM
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GEP, I will. Thank you:)
posted by
b2008
on December 30, 2007 at 2:42 PM
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Re: I wish I new that's why I'm still...
I think you are definitly on the right track. Just keep on reading . . . and THINKING!
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on December 30, 2007 at 2:38 PM
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Re: GEP; DEEP
One of the biggest errors in the world is to overlook the real value in the thoughts of others, even those on the lowest steps of the social ladder, even in those we may even consider to be "simpletons!" You are extremely fortunate if you understand this.
Thank you so much for your valued comment!
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on December 30, 2007 at 2:31 PM
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I wish I new that's why I'm still...
...learning. I read a little of Stephen Hawking's paper last night about the beginning of the universe and man definitely don't know how it started. The one thing scientists and cosmologists might agree on is human beings could not have been here billions of years ago without being completely wiped off the face of the earth on several occasions. They say this because if we had been here constantly, we would have progressed more rapidly than we have. With our progression now, from about 6,000 years ago, look at how much more intelligent we have become in these few years. So if we were here billions of years ago, we should be super humans by now, they suggest. So, it suggest that an intelligent source must have created us about the time of creation according to the bible. That's what I got out of it generally. What do you think?
posted by
b2008
on December 30, 2007 at 2:23 PM
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GEP
And so my neighbors in Blogitville are much deeper than I thought. Good to know, read and learn
posted by
SEEDLINGS
on December 30, 2007 at 2:08 PM
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