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Troosha - why thank you, considering that one of the main reasons I hang
around Blogit is to master the English language, I consider your kind words an extreme compliment.
I cannot disagree with anything you say in your comment, especially considering you prefaced what you feel constitutes spirituality with the words "For me . . . " What spirituality is becomes a little more difficult to articulate without reference to a higher power. I prefer terms such as a "higher cause", or a purpose above survival and self sustenance. Where some could (and would) argue that the influence which compels us, or motivates us to pursue spiritual endeavors, especially of a selfless nature, is in fact a higher power, I have trouble with this explanation. There are simply too many people in this world that conduct themselves in a manner that indicates they are as spiritually evolved as anyone, yet at the same time do not believe in God. And of course the converse is true.
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gomedome
on December 7, 2007 at 11:57 AM
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gomedome
At the risk of being chewed up and spit out because man do you ever have a grip on the English language and how to carve out your thoughts (I’ve been catching up on some of your posts and comments), I think spirituality is living beyond our selves. For me, a spiritually driven life is only possible if we consider the possibility of a more powerful, omnipotent force – for some this is a traditional picture of “God”. For others, it is a continual pursuit for answers. And for others still, it is simply an inexplicable knowing that something far greater this – the here, the now, the tangible – truly exists. Is living a spiritually based life synonymous with living within the parameters of a specific religion – no. Does following the doctrines of a specific religion make you spiritual – no again. Troosha quietly tip toes out now…..
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Troosha
on December 7, 2007 at 11:37 AM
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Re: I agree with ladychardonnay regarding the starting point.
as I reread my comment---I have to make this one clarification: "spirituality often ends with the notion of "belief in God"---" I agree with your post in that this sort of approach not spirituality, and the citation from scripture goes to support you. I hope this point is clearer now. (there I go thinking faster than I can type again...

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FineYoungSinger
on December 6, 2007 at 11:24 AM
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I agree with ladychardonnay regarding the starting point.
I also agree, gomedome, that spirituality often ends with the notion of "belief in God"---from scripture: "Not all who call me Lord, Lord will enter into the kindgom of heaven."
For me, God is not only a big part of my spirituality, but the sole purpose for it: my connection to God, as well as my spiritual dependence upon God, connects to my physical existence through my will. As I bend my will toward God with my spiritual self, my personal physical existence becomes less and less important to me. I am more able to let myself go in this physical world when I am clinging to God with my spirit.
This is how I know God exists, and how I can understand in my extremely limited way His great love for me and for all of humanity through all time; why I can be at peace with His will and with His actions toward humanity through all time; why the physical world is the way it is.
God is absolutely unmistakeable and unimaginable; but will never force Himself upon anyone. He will only come to you when you have a true desire to find Him.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on December 6, 2007 at 9:55 AM
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ladychardonnay - that has to be the starting point
If it is not, all perceptions are premised upon a weak foundation.
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gomedome
on December 6, 2007 at 8:43 AM
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to me it means being honest with yourself - brutally honest
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ladychardonnay
on December 6, 2007 at 8:16 AM
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