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RSM
You radiate ignorance and hatred with just about all you write here.
The questions you asked of me showed a great level of ignorance.
Do you believe that the devil is given free reign to convince a person not to believe in God?
Asking me that question is as ignorance as it gets. Since I do not believe in God (I did not chose to not believe by the way, I just am unable to believe) or the Devil, then the question itself is silly. Unless you misunderstood what an atheist is, then asking an atheist such a question is by pure definition ignorance.
As for the hatred part, I don't believe I said anything about you displaying hatred here. Now I have read your blogs and I know you have nothing but hatred for freedom and liberty and truth, but that is off topic.
I treat people with other belief with greater respect than they often treat me. I do not belittle your views or questions, you do a great job of that all on your own. After all how many people think that ACLU somehow control what Santa's get to say over in Australia? When you make such claims, you show yourself to be a fool. If you wish to ask questions or make statements that display your ignorance, it is not may fault that you are showing yourself to lack a certain level of understanding. if you wish for me to stop pointing out when you say something foolish or ignorant, I guess I can. You do it so often though and I would hope that you might have the slightest amount of common sense to see your patterns and start trying to change them.
I am still lost as to why those like you wish to display ignorance by claiming I am angry. I am not an angry person in the least. There are many believers here on Blogit that I get along with really well. But due to your blind haltered of all things liberal and non-Christian, you continue to make ignorant comments.
For some reason, you seem to have an ego that says that I believe you to be the embodiment of all Christians. Just because I have a problem with the way you seem to wish to express yourself as being truly ignorant, that I am saying that of all Christians. I am not. There seems to be those like you who feel that if someone says something bad about them, then that person must being saying it all about all believers. It seems to be part of that victim mentality that those like you seem to embrace.
Also, I have no idea where you got the idea I did not have many friends as a child. I've never said such things. I did say that at one point I had few friends in my classes at school due to how classes were broken up at that time, but that is not the same thing.I you wish to get along, then stop writing comments and posts that show your ignorance and I will stop pointing it out to you.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 14, 2007 at 11:36 AM
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Hatred and Ignorant?
As I have read my replies to your blogs, I fail to see how any of them have warranted being called ignorant and begin labeled as hatred? I have done nothing but ask you valid questions about your choice in life to not believe in God. I understand that you were picked on, had a speech problem, did not have many friends, etc. in your youth but I must question your treatment towards others who have different beliefs. I notice that it seems that you can only try to belittle my views and questions. I could do the same to yours but I have not done so, I have simply asked questions. I can understand how you may be angry about things that may have happened in your youth but I was not there, I did not attack you back then or now. You seem to think that all Christians are the same and that is not the case at all. Trust me! However, your verbal attacks are juvenile at best. We could actually agree on some things. I tried to share my beliefs about some Christians to you in earlier posts or blogs but you seemed to skim over those ideas and just went back to the "you are ignorant" type of crap. That kind of reaction is not flattering to your credibility.
posted by
RedStatesMan
on December 13, 2007 at 8:53 PM
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Wow! Kooka, I've been absorbing your arguments/debates here. So sorry,
if anyone has attacked or questioned your character, sincerely. There is a religious belief in saving souls and some feel a duty (I would never believe that to be Oddy's objective either)
and I'm not stepping in the middle of this, just defending my own position because I am not commenting here in order to save anyone's soul. I was just introducing myself by commenting on your question. I do know what I know and it is only what I know. My attempt was only to share my spiritual experiences, which are very fulfilling and exciting. When anyone has such phenomenal experiences they are excited to share them. We're each our own little universe and whatever works for your life need not be debated. I don't like the associations and labels society places on beliefs. Spirituality has many levels and therefore levels of understanding. You express yourself as a caring and loving person. My best wishes to you.
posted by
roadscross
on December 9, 2007 at 2:51 AM
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RSM
I understand faith really well actually. In fact it is very clear that I understand it much better than you and many other believers.
Just to try and clear up a few things here. I never called anyone's beliefs bulls#!t. I said there was religious bulls#!t, but that is not necessarily the beliefs themselves. And I only claim that people such as yourself are ignorant, not believers as a whole.
And I very much try to live by the golden rule. It is just at times I find that you have to treat people with the lack of respect they seem to ask for, although I never am able to sink as low as those people when it comes to showing a total lack of respect.
Now for your rather poorly conceived questions.
Do you believe in spiritual warfare?
Only in the internal sense in that you are very often your own worst enemy. The only kind of spiritual warfare that happens is your having to deal with your own mind and choices in life.
Do you believe that the devil is given free reign to convince a person not to believe in God?
I believe there is no devil and no God, so that question is very silly for anyone to ask me. It is the kind of question a person who is ignorant and does not understand belief would ask of an atheist.
Do you have hope for anything?
Outside of hoping that people who ask silly, ignorant questions would shut up some day and stop being paranoid morons? I hope to enjoy life to the fullest and help other to enjoy life to the fullest as well. I hope to make a better future for my children and their children and so on. In fact I have lots and lots of hope.
Do you believe that the complexity of human beings, nature and all that this universe is all about is nothing but just by chance?
Yes, very much so. Otherwise it really would take the wonder and grandness of life. It is just so amazing and great to know that we came about through random chance and that however the universe works, such a thing is possible. I find such reasoning to be much more positive and optimistic than to believe that we were created by some omnipotent being who was bored and needed a group of creatures to worship him because he seems to have some issues to work through.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 7, 2007 at 11:08 AM
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Not A Good Salesman For Atheism
I notice that you have no problem saying that Chrisitan have a "Bullsh$t" belief and that we are "ignorant". I do not understand where you live by "'due un to others as you would have them do un to you' as you have stated in this post. I think you have failed at attempting to live by your beliefs then. Jesus asks us for faith. Faith is not some scientific fact that you can place your hands around and then put it in your pocket. I believe you have a problem understanding 'faith'. Do you believe in spiritual warfare? Do you believe that the devil is given free reign to convince a person not to believe in God? Do you have hope for anything? Do you believe that the complexity of human beings, nature and all that this universe is all about is nothing but just by chance?
posted by
RedStatesMan
on December 6, 2007 at 8:00 PM
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Oddy, You really don't understand English at all do you?
Jut because atheists do not have any organized belief system, does not mean that any of them believe in 'nothing'. Just because they do not believe in God does not mean there is nothing else out there to believe in and put your faith in. I have so many times talked about how I believe in my family and friends and in the true potential of the human spirit. You have insulted me many times by implying that all of that is nothing and empty, since you keep on claiming that is all my beliefs are.
There is so much more to put faith into in order to do good and live a fulfilling and moral life, than your God nonsense.
It really is sad that you are so trapped in your little world that you are unable to understand this. How are you able to enjoy life with such limited and pessimistic ideas?
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 4, 2007 at 12:43 PM
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That comment is off the scale as far as hypocrisy goes
Try just once backing your slander and accusations towards others with real examples. Try just once to show a little bit of social responsibility by backing your words of hatred towards those with whom you philosophically disagree, with some facts. Try telling the truth for once and then maybe you can talk about things like integrity. Until that time comes, your words make you look completely foolish. There could not possibly be a worse representative of all that you claim to be a proponent of.
posted by
gomedome
on December 3, 2007 at 10:15 PM
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Well Kooka,
you say below there is…….”no way to sayout right what atheists believe in ”…….and I’ll tell you very plainlythat I think a man should stand for something, for integrity, for basicdecency, for morality, for a lot of things. Atheism is unappealing to me because it shrinks from any belief,elevating only nothingness……a belief in nothing is empty, cold, and withoutform.
posted by
Oddy
on December 3, 2007 at 9:33 PM
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I see that you've read and responded to chucklehead's blog
Reading the comments made for great entertainment. I thought the funniest part of the comments was when the evil fighter from planet loony bin chimed in. The math is fairly simple here. Chucklehead writes just about all of his posts aimed at two people (friggin sick isn't it?). In the past you have blogged about how things had gotten tight for you between jobs, so by simple deduction that would leave party number two of the two continuous blog subjects (yours truly) as the one who is belittling others by bragging about their personal wealth. Have you ever known me to mention this subject? There is but one example of this subject coming up on this site when he asked me about my situation back in March of 2005. Of course the comical caped crusader cannot produce a single example to back his accusation. As usual he has simply made something up, published it in a public forum as if it were fact and will deny, evade and ignore any suggestions that he is lying.
I don't know about you but I have had enough of this situation. Where I can more than defend my ideas and contentions against anything the chucklehead might dream up to throw at me, how do you defend yourself against sick, stupid and irrational? This entire situation is nonsensical from my perspective, I have no desire to continue being an ongoing target for a lying, religious retard. Let his sick little mind find another raison d'etre.
posted by
gomedome
on December 3, 2007 at 8:37 PM
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