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Very thoughtful
Great work

posted by NightMajik on October 29, 2007 at 8:11 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks, Dave, then we're not that far out of sync
It's 5:00 pmish

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 5:14 PM | link to this | reply

Zena, it's 10 past midnight in the UK. I expect TonioBonio is still
about somewhere.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on October 29, 2007 at 5:11 PM | link to this | reply

What time is it yer neck of the woods, Antonio?

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 4:19 PM | link to this | reply

I missed this, Zena. We is out of sync!
An interesting theme, the riddles life presents us with.  

posted by Antonionioni on October 29, 2007 at 4:15 PM | link to this | reply

Oh, Baby, my toiling, tortured heart. Thanks, Mysteria, I can use that one

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 1:22 PM | link to this | reply

Oh the toils of the tortured heart!

posted by mysteria on October 29, 2007 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

Hi White Elephant,
Sweet, a lot of people are coming up with things I never even thought of.  Thanks.

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:55 AM | link to this | reply

Zena
nice one ~ I liked this!

for some reason it reminded me of this quote by the great advertising guru Leo Burnett ....

If you reach for the stars, you might not quite get one, but you won’t end up with a handful of mud, either.’

posted by White_Elephant on October 29, 2007 at 8:53 AM | link to this | reply

.Dave,
I try.

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:39 AM | link to this | reply

Ex Turpi,
Good point. 

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:39 AM | link to this | reply

FineYoungSinger,
I'm glad you liked it.  I may need to bone up on my mythology. It's been a while. 

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:38 AM | link to this | reply

Kayzzamn, thanks

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:37 AM | link to this | reply

Chris, that is exactly what I was getting at
(I wonder here if I'm supposed to obscure and not tell anyone what I was getting at?).  I know poets who will say "read the poem, it's all in there' and be mysterious.  On the other hand, in some poems if you spell it out, I think it does ruin the multiple layers of meaning. Hm. Dilemmas.

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:36 AM | link to this | reply

Tigerprincess, I'm' going to have work on those last 2 stanzas
Because it's both: giving up all worldly possessions and wanting what we can't have, but not in that order.  I use poetry to work out for myself what I'm trying to  say. 

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:31 AM | link to this | reply

John, if you're looking for logic, you've come to the wrong blog

(see title of blog).  I'll do my best to be consistent, but, when it comes down to it, I like a good image. 

Mythology is a staple in 18th Century poetry, and a love of mine, so I almost take it for granted that if I throw in a little Greek, the reader will either look it up or nod along.  The reference to Icarus is that he was a mortal who decided he wanted to flly to the sun on wax wings, which is guaranteed failure.

Inana, I admiit is a little more obscure, it's Sumerian mythology.  It's a kind of death and rebirth myth, that involved a rivalry between her and her dark sister.  I'll have to look up the details myself, but it's your basic 72 hours in hell kind of story.

If I lost you on the last stanza, though I'll look at that and try to make it clearer.  Often, I'm using the poem to work out myself what I'm trying to say, so if I'm being ambiguous there, I'm sorry, my bad. 

posted by Zena77 on October 29, 2007 at 8:22 AM | link to this | reply

Another good one.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on October 29, 2007 at 7:45 AM | link to this | reply

Yet, I believe we must strive. We cannot be deterred by failure.

posted by EX_TURPI on October 29, 2007 at 7:34 AM | link to this | reply

I got a completely different take on this poem, it seems like the first verses were about how vain it is to lay all you have in material possesions, and then the last verse is about wanting what we cannot have...

posted by tigerprincess on October 29, 2007 at 7:32 AM | link to this | reply

I love this.
What a great treatment of mythology here!  Excellent

posted by FineYoungSinger on October 29, 2007 at 6:59 AM | link to this | reply

i vote wisdom hands down

posted by chrisja on October 29, 2007 at 2:06 AM | link to this | reply

It's simply beautiful !

posted by afzal50 on October 29, 2007 at 12:07 AM | link to this | reply

Nice poem to cherish...

posted by Kayzzaman on October 28, 2007 at 10:09 PM | link to this | reply

Nice poem to cherish...

posted by Kayzzaman on October 28, 2007 at 10:09 PM | link to this | reply

A little dark and quagmirery for me, which is probably why I lke it
1st stz--I guess we are in Greek Mytholothy, but only if one knows, who Icarus was. So I guess this is going to deal with tragic fate of gods and mortals.

2nd Stz--Have no idea who Inana is.She's not in any of my books, but you did a good job describing the mythological situation.

3rd Stz--Don't quite get the language, but I start presuming this is much like the theme of Sysiphus

4th Stz--call me stupid because I was looking to be broght back home to the title, and I got completely lost. Not that I mind if that was your intention. Still, a dark and haunting read, and perhaps the sense of tragedy at its best.

posted by jfm32 on October 28, 2007 at 9:51 PM | link to this | reply

Hi, Spinner, thanks for reading

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 9:23 PM | link to this | reply

excellent work 77 real good /spinner

posted by spinner on October 28, 2007 at 9:03 PM | link to this | reply

Richinstore,
the trophy I was thinking of was more a personal victory, not at anyone else's expense, gaining knowledge. 

posted by Zena77 on October 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM | link to this | reply

zena
The trophy being a measure of success...where winners laugh with glee and losers cry in vain.

posted by richinstore on October 28, 2007 at 8:38 PM | link to this | reply