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Re: Happy Endings
Of all the gin joints in all the world... I knew Dick Cheney was wearing makeup!
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 1:01 PM
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Re: cunning
I'm flattered, Tattered. Very nice of you to say. Thanks for reading.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:58 PM
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Re: Cunning
Krisles, I don't imagine that there would be any awkward silence if you and I were ever in each other's company. We seem to have a lot of common interests. Thank you for giving a read in a reply.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:56 PM
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Re: CunningL.......
I'm an elusive character, Soul. You're not with the IRS are you? :-)
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:53 PM
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I never misuse a masseuse. I go on the subway to get groped. Aww, yes, I went there.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:50 PM
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This was excellent. I love when a good story has layers and deeper meaning if you really look. Thanks for your insight, joab1. Very interesting.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:46 PM
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Re: Always ask for a happy ending :)
Something about happy endings rub me the wrong way. :-)
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:41 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful contribution, Lovely Lady. I should probably see the Phantom of the Opera, based on this response I've gotten.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:38 PM
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Re: YOu have said all so well .
thank you.
posted by
CunningLinguist
on October 11, 2007 at 12:35 PM
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Happy Endings
Saw both the original of the Opera w/Lon Chaney as the disfigured tragic figure; and in the 2nd, Claude Raines as the Phantom, chewed the scenery just as he did in Casablanca. But Chaney's make-up was incredible and he did his own. joab
posted by
joab1
on October 11, 2007 at 9:19 AM
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cunning
Who needs movies when we have you to read? Great as usual
posted by
Tattered_Knight
on October 10, 2007 at 10:13 PM
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Cunning
Big surprise, we can really talk movies! I've seen all that you reference, also seen the "Phantom" staged and.....although you didn't mention it....always loved Charles Laughton and Maureen O'Hara's film of "The Hunchback..."....I think it captured the soul and intention of the book beautifully. It's funny how people look at the same thing and derive such different messages.....I think both Phantom and Hunchback and Pretty all teach that there is so much more to the human heart than all that glitters....lessons for both the coveted and those who covet....it really is all in the eyes of the beholder (I know....not an original thought in the comment, but why try to improve on words that say it so well?)
posted by
Krisles
on October 10, 2007 at 9:06 PM
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CunningL.......
, finally I caught up with you!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on October 10, 2007 at 5:29 PM
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Re: When I did massage therapy training...
a happy ending DO NOT GO THERE!"
To some, it all might depend on where "THERE" is. 
joab
posted by
joab1
on October 10, 2007 at 2:31 PM
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Now there's a post written with some vigorous feeling Cunning. I went to the Phantom many years ago, when it was on at the theatre, but forgot the ending. When I did massage therapy training one of the main and oft repeated words of advice was "when a client asks you to give them a happy ending DO NOT GO THERE!"
posted by
robdon67
on October 10, 2007 at 12:33 PM
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I've never seen Phantom of the Opera, but I think I'm familiar with the basic storyline: hideously deformed, pure hearted gentleman, madly in love with the unattainable starlet beauty. Did Beauty and the Beast rip off The Phantom or was it vice versa?
I think, for me at least, the "hidden" element, represented by the female in all such tales, is really about man's struggle within himself -- the ugly and deformed "beast" he keeps, hopefully, leashed. The female is a representation of man's "better/civilized" nature, one we all aspire to, ie, "the pure love that exceeds all else". We are both drawn to, and repelled by, those same forces. Just my opinion. joab
posted by
joab1
on October 10, 2007 at 10:43 AM
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Always ask for a happy ending :)
posted by
mysteria
on October 10, 2007 at 8:33 AM
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Hey there, Melody...
I've never seen the broadway version of THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, but since Michael Crawford had to give up the role, I haven't really wanted to. I'm sorry, but so far as I go, the only phantom EVER will be Michael!
I have seen one or two decent film versions, though. The first one was with Burt Lancaster (Sadly, this was literally his last role), Charles Dance, who was Erik (The phantom) and Teri Polo as his beloved Christine.
I also saw the latest film version with Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum. Hats off to them both! I own that one.
There's a funny story that Michael tells during some of his concerts about how he ended up taking the role of the phantom. Apparently, when he first discussed working on it with Andrew Lloyd Webber, he assumed he was going to play the role of the handsome, dashing Count, Raoul.
For an entire year, he studied Raoul's charecter by reading the Gaston LeRoux novel and watching the old Claude Raines version of the film. I've seen that one, and it's AWFUL! Almost as bad as the old Lon Channey silent version!...
BTW...Did you know that both of Lon's parents were deaf? As a boy, he used to entertain them by putting on silent shows for them. That's why he decided to go into acting.
Anyway, a year or so later, Michael gets a call from Andrew saying they're ready to cast, come to my office. So, in strides Michael, doing his best Raoul. Andrew then informs the poor chap that they've already cast Steve Barton in the role of Raoul, and he wants Michael to play the role of the phantom.
In complete shock and appalled, Michael says he tried to protest, but finally reluctantly agreed. He now says it was the best role he's ever had.
Funny, I've always wanted to audition for the role of Christine Daae.
I've also read the novel, and I must admit that I honestly don't know whether to hate Erik for being a heartless murderer or to pity him for never having found love.
You're right Melody...We all too often neglect to seek and find the inner beauty that the "ugly" people around us possess.
posted by
lovelyladymonk
on October 10, 2007 at 8:31 AM
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YOu have said all so well .
posted by
afzal50
on October 10, 2007 at 8:05 AM
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