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Most certainly, Decshak. However, none of mine are of suspicious
content, unless you count Disney, Land Before Time series, and The Godfather...

posted by saul_relative on November 7, 2007 at 8:23 PM | link to this | reply

Don't you have piles of video tapes that you haven't looked at for years?
I thought everybody did.

posted by WindTapper on November 7, 2007 at 2:49 PM | link to this | reply

Your opinion holds far more weight than mine ever could, Chyrlann.

In the end, I would hope that the victims of these crimes find what they need to become whole.  I would also hope that whatever causes these particular proclivities in the perpetrators be discovered and excised from the human genome.  I have children and know without a doubt that if anything untoward happened to them, I would seek the harshest penalty possible for the perpetrator. 

As for politics, it's all about opinions, manipulations, and leverage.  Of the three, I'm just opinionated.  But I beleive it important that we all stay informed of what our elected officials are trying to screw out of us (since it is usually the power that motivates these individuals)...

posted by saul_relative on October 28, 2007 at 12:16 PM | link to this | reply

I was wandering through trying to find something I could relate to in your

blogs. You are a good writer, I'm just not politically inclined...I don't know exactly why, I just can't seem to get in tune with the ways of the world; the media, politics, etc., like a writer's block, i go blank. I don't watch tv, listen or read news. The news/views change drastically depending on commentator.

I stumbled upon this news of pedifiles, predators; I was, as well as my younger brother, molested in infancy by my grandfather's friend. We later learned my mother had also been when infant. The problem with toddler's and infants (repressed) is not really the definition because they don't understand what transpired until they are old enough to understand; up until the age of understanding it's about monsters, giants and nightmares, unlike older children or rape victims, they simply live afraid of shadows in the night and sleep is disturbed to a great extent. They grow with an intrinsic, fear they don't understand and the fear leads them to self doubt and more victimizing. I know I would probably have a different opinion of the animal if he was still alive; My relationship with my grandfathers was greatly compromised when the repressed issues began coming to light. His knowledge of his 'friend' having a no contact order with his own children was difficult to understand in allowing the animal to roam among his own children/grandchildren unattended. They have both passed on now and it is still difficult to understand.

It still makes me uncomfortable to read/talk about it but it is also empowering when people are now talking openly about this issue; it aides more in protecting children now days when folks are more open to discuss it. People have strong opinions regarding the predators. My own beliefs regarding death only validate the release of the predator from persecution so it is difficult for me to condone death as restitution.

posted by roadscross on October 28, 2007 at 12:24 AM | link to this | reply

That's the spirit, strat!!

posted by saul_relative on October 12, 2007 at 10:21 AM | link to this | reply

Both these critters need to have
a dump truck parked on their privates.

Get 'em the hell off my planet.

posted by strat on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 AM | link to this | reply

I don't adhere to the 'we become no better than them' ideology, AmMused,
although I think it a valid argument.  I am not an authoritarian, a strict disciplinarian, insensitive, or a desensitized individual.  However, there are people (such as these animals) that do not deserve to walk among the living, simply because of the butterfly effect.  Take them out and they cannot cause butterfly effects ever again... 

posted by saul_relative on October 11, 2007 at 8:13 PM | link to this | reply

My opinion - one among many - for what it is worth.  And don't think my first reaction was different from anyone else's.  I know the horrifying results of these sick people's actions.

I used to foster children, now I foster dogs.  Heartbreakingly similar. Those who hurt and exploit a child to athletes (anyone- but especially those who are in a position to influence the minds of the young because of their positions) who run dog fights.  For those who think there is no comparison - I say all life is sacred.  Those who would torture and kill one animal are as likely to do the same to any other living creature including humans.  Those who take pleasure in the pain of others and harm those who are dependent are all the same as far as I am concerned. It is their predilection that is different-not the hard-wiring of their minds. 

It is so tempting to think about what we would do to them - if only!  If only their fates could reflect their crime!  Torturing them as they did their victims, putting them all in the pits with those exploited dogs; well, that idea might make us feel better - momentarily.  It would not take the horror from our hearts or relieve the suffering of the victims.  I doubt that it would deter any future behaviour from others, either.  (Well, maybe some of the cowards who fight dogs or cocks.)  The result is: we are no better when we contemplate the pain and horror we would put them through.  Torture is torture whether we are on the "right" side or the "wrong" side.  We do not want our minds, hearts or spirits going there!  We do not want to become them in any way - big or small!  But it is tempting...   AmMused

posted by AmMused on October 11, 2007 at 5:03 AM | link to this | reply

I see little wrong with that statement, mysteria. Perhaps nothing...

posted by saul_relative on October 9, 2007 at 10:51 AM | link to this | reply

All Pedophiles Must Die!!!

posted by mysteria on October 9, 2007 at 9:41 AM | link to this | reply

But they didn't kill him, did they, joab? You see, callous as itmay
sound, and not saying that the worthless piece of crap didn't deserve the nail treatment, but if they did not kill him, he would be able to do it again...

posted by saul_relative on October 7, 2007 at 7:59 PM | link to this | reply

Just When You Thought You'd Seen The Lowest..."

I can remember my parents talking in hushed tones when I was about six, about a child rapist that had been caught.  What they did, I later learned, was something so horrible one could wince.  This was late 1939-40 perhaps.

He was stripped, tied to a tree and flogged, meanwhile a carpenter's nail was being heated over a kerosene burner.  When it was white hot it was inserted . . . well . . . you understand what happened.  joab

posted by joab1 on October 7, 2007 at 12:36 PM | link to this | reply

Nothing like a well-intentioned suitable 'accident', huh, Corbin? I'm all
for it.  Saves that child some pain; saves the family more anguish; saves the taxpayers a helluva lot of money...

posted by saul_relative on October 6, 2007 at 11:01 AM | link to this | reply

If not found dead.......
perhaps a suitable accident as he is pulled out from his remote hiding place.........

posted by Corbin_Dallas on October 6, 2007 at 7:01 AM | link to this | reply

That's where my thoughts go as well, Contemplating...

posted by saul_relative on October 5, 2007 at 9:45 PM | link to this | reply

If that happened to my daughter...I'd have to kill him....
Let's hope he is dead (for the sake of the little girl)

posted by Contemplating_Poetry on October 5, 2007 at 7:13 PM | link to this | reply

Yeah, Justi, it's terrible. Hopefully, the little girl will be allowed to
forego the entire trial.  It's not like they don't have video evidence...

posted by saul_relative on October 2, 2007 at 8:51 PM | link to this | reply

SR
That green word just turned up that way!

posted by Justi on October 2, 2007 at 8:31 PM | link to this | reply

saul-relative
I liked this post. This little girl and her mother do not need to bring this back up. It would be good if he were out of the picture as she apparently forgot it because of the Grace of God or some such. That wild eyed thing that has been showing the tape around looks like a bad movie too.

posted by Justi on October 2, 2007 at 8:30 PM | link to this | reply

Unfortunately, this is the case among many, opheliablue. Here's to you,
your strength, your perserverance, opheliablue.   

posted by saul_relative on September 30, 2007 at 2:18 PM | link to this | reply

So do I, Wavy. They ruin the lives of those young people they invade.
If it is one or if it is more, child pornographers and pedophiles should be destroyed...

posted by saul_relative on September 30, 2007 at 2:15 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Hate to sound cliche, opheliablue, but only time will truly tell. Righ
You're right.... and repressing the memories is exactly what I did... sometimes it's the only way to survive at the time..

posted by opheliablue on September 30, 2007 at 10:58 AM | link to this | reply

''Just When You Thought You'd Seen The Lowest...''
SaulRelative: I believe that child pornographers should be executed. 

posted by WavyDavy on September 30, 2007 at 9:38 AM | link to this | reply

I agree, Wiley; that bastard needs to die. See my comment to Naut, my
friend, concerning the mother...

posted by saul_relative on September 30, 2007 at 8:30 AM | link to this | reply

The things we do to each other, Sheilah...

posted by saul_relative on September 30, 2007 at 8:29 AM | link to this | reply

Turns out, Naut, that this is the first the mother has heard of the
incident, that the scumbag was an acquaintance, and that she was cooperating fully with authorities to help find and capture the piece of crap...

posted by saul_relative on September 30, 2007 at 8:28 AM | link to this | reply

saul relative
Dead would be good for him, and like Naut asks; What about the Mother?......

posted by WileyJohn on September 29, 2007 at 8:24 PM | link to this | reply

God! This is horrible... these things make me sick!

posted by Sheilah on September 29, 2007 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply

Saul
The whole thing just turns my stomach! But I have another question: what's with that mother???

posted by Nautikos on September 29, 2007 at 4:55 PM | link to this | reply

Hate to sound cliche, opheliablue, but only time will truly tell. Right
now she's probably repressed the memories, which will probably resurface sometime in the future, triggered by god knows what kind of traumatic event.  But let's sincerely hope not...

posted by saul_relative on September 29, 2007 at 11:39 AM | link to this | reply

Hey, Jack Flash. Here's the plan. Send that storyline into
Law & Order: SVU (cause you know they're gonna "rip it from the headlines" and make a show that reflects this tragedy.  So send it to them, see if you can make a buck (or at least a credit line or something).  I really like your twist on things.  It is so possible its ridiculous, knowing the convoluted dealings these sick f**ks involve themselves in...

posted by saul_relative on September 29, 2007 at 11:36 AM | link to this | reply

That is so terrible...  I know how something like that can shadow your life awfully, having been through something similar - I hope the little girl will be ok.

posted by opheliablue on September 29, 2007 at 4:54 AM | link to this | reply

I figure it this way,

The guy who turned in the video was working with Perp01 on a video tor a website or the Usenet.  The plan was to have Perp01 go onto a bus and mess with a little girl while Perp02 shot the video.

They better check on the bus driver, too.  We may have Perp03.

Alas, the video was such a piece of crap that no website would pay for it, and the Usenet ''don't pay for nuttin.''  After trying for a long time, perp02 gave up on making money from the video.  But there was a problem.  Perp01 was demanding pay for his services as an ''actor.''

Well, Perp02 turned in the tape to get Perp01 off of his case.  Just another day in the life of Porn Stars and production people.

               Hey!!!!... JJ Flash

posted by Jack_Flash on September 29, 2007 at 1:31 AM | link to this | reply