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kooka_lives - answer to your last comment - I sympathize fully
I only suggested that you put the brakes on because I saw the possibility of an unfavorable outcome from continuing.
posted by
gomedome
on September 28, 2007 at 9:42 PM
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Shams-i-Heartsong - no truer words were ever spoken but may I add that
so too does any rigid philosophy.
posted by
gomedome
on September 28, 2007 at 9:39 PM
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Religious narrowness puts all in a corner
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on September 28, 2007 at 2:53 PM
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kooka_lives - do you want a final laugh about all of this?
I'm the only one of the 3 of us that is not blocked by either party . . . I'll have to turn in my nemesis badge I guess.
posted by
gomedome
on September 27, 2007 at 8:06 PM
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EX_TURPI
Gomedome said it all there. Around here you get more clicks with vinegar than with honey. That is one reason I recently changed the title of this blog. I figured if I made it a little more controversial more people might stop in and see what I was up to.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 27, 2007 at 7:53 PM
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Gomedome
You think I might have gotten carried away there?
It felt so good though.
The sad thing is he most likely lacked the ability to comprehend what was being said and instead focused on my use of 'bad words'.
But I am done with him now and will do all I can to ignore his ignorance and hatred.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 27, 2007 at 7:51 PM
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EX_TURPI - that's the sad truth - a person could write a literary
masterpiece, post it in this forum and it will almost certainly go unnoticed but....
. . get involved in a mud slinging debate and the clicks come pouring in. It's the "car wreck" syndrome.
posted by
gomedome
on September 27, 2007 at 6:51 PM
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To all participants here.
I am not conversant with the genesis of the disagreements here. I can say, however, it generates a great amount of interest. Maybe controversy is more successful, and rewarding, than agreement.
posted by
EX_TURPI
on September 27, 2007 at 4:15 PM
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kooka_lives - I find it hard to believe that causing as much grief as
possible was not the original intention.
Every person has their own bullshit threshold and no one, no matter how thick their skin is, can say that they are completely impervious to relentless harrassment. And make no mistake, the lack of reason, constant denials, the disjointed logic and what seems like nothing more than attempts to be annoying, are nothing more than harrassment. The ongoing inability to differentiate between personal attacks and the rebuttal of opinions that a person does not agree with was the point where our rights as forum participants were continuously breeched. We are no better when we are drawn into it and respond in kind but there is solace in the fact that for either of us to act this way we must be prompted to do so.
I can speak from experience in saying that Blogit is a lot more enjoyable when you don't have to deal with someone playing the mindless heckling game.
posted by
gomedome
on September 27, 2007 at 2:15 PM
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Oddy
Good, I don't want you here.
In fact I think this is the time for us both to go to our areas and ignore each other. Please, keep me blocked and I am going to return the favor and block you. That way we can avoid all this from now on.
You are not worth it and you only bring out the worst in me. I will leave you to your ignorance and fantasy and avoid your sad little world at all costs.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 27, 2007 at 11:51 AM
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Kooka, I can see that your anger has gotten the best of you
and I’m truly sorry if I’m the cause for that so let’s just stop here. I’m going back to the peace and quite in Ithaca.
posted by
telemachus
on September 26, 2007 at 11:29 PM
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kooka_lives - slow down man
There are enough UA violations in your comment to get you booted.
posted by
gomedome
on September 26, 2007 at 2:56 PM
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Oddy, you are a true idiot
You're right, I must be a total jerk to get upset when some stupid, dumbass comes around and tells me my family and friends are nothing. Because that is exactly what you say ever single solitary time you make your ignorant comments about how my beliefs are nothing. I have never once insulted you to that degree. I have not said out right that your beliefs are nothing or that your life is meaningless because of what you believe. You insult not only the core of my beliefs and why I am able to live life the way I do with morals and integrity that you can only dream of possessing, but you insult all of those who are important to me in life by making such claims. Yet for some reason you are unable to see this insult that you preach openly as if it was a kind thing to say about people. Seriously, what the Hell is wrong you?
Oh, and name calling is still NOT immoral you whiny little turd. Get over yourself and grow up.
And atheist does not believe in God you stupid asshole, and it is only God that we do not believe in. We believe in a whole lot of others positive, uplifting ideas, such as the power of a person, the strength of family and friends and so on. I've told you all this time and time again, yet your narrow minded world is unable to grasp this reality. I put up a post a few days back quoted from the L.A. Times that you really need to read (10 Myths and 10 Truths about Atheism). While I know you do not wish to grow out of your childish ignorance and open your mind up, it still might do you some good.
Your missing a lot, a whole lot and that is the problem. You just do not understand that belief and faith do NOT need your sad, pointless concept of God involved in them in order to have meaning and power and be positive and uplifting.
Your ignorance is about as bad as it gets. And you can still go to Hell. Me saying that does not imply any beliefs in Hell. That is a true sign of ignorance. It is called an 'expression' . Learn English your moronic dipshit.
And yes, I have purposely cursed you out here because you deserve it. You are the embodiment of all I hope to never become in life, because you are the total sum of what a sad, bitter person truly is. I hope to never be so pathetic and empty as to need to lash out in such an insulting manner as you do time and time again. You dislike 'bad words' and 'name calling' but refuse to understand the deeper insults you spit out whenever you make your piss poor comments that are nothing more than total hatred and ignorance towards those who just do not agree with your beliefs.
You really are nothing in my eyes and you have yet to do one single thing to make me think you will ever actually try to get along with me.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
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Kooka…….I guess you’re right about one thing….
you certainly do embrace something, specifically name-calling…….jackass?………unmanly?…come on, you know that’s not moral!…..and yet it never stops……..you hurl insults left and right and by so doing demonstrate your immorality……….listen, if you believe in something, how can you be atheist?………I mean, if I’m missing something, please explain it to me because what I’ve heard from you time and time again is that you refuse to believe in anything. If you have beliefs, tell us about them. And yes, I know you believe in your family…….but who doesn’t? I’m talking about a solid philosophical world view! Either you’ve got one or you don’t. You can’t be a believer in something unless you’ve got one. If you don’t have one then you are a believer in nothing, which is, as I said, the abyss!
And why are you telling me to go to hell if you don’t believe in hell? Do you sometimes also say “Oh God” when something happens? Have you noticed how easy it is to forget you are atheist when you are confronted by the world?
posted by
telemachus
on September 26, 2007 at 1:41 PM
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telemachus - we forgot about the part where you like to claim innocence
and insist on playing the victim.
I like this part: "Seemingly it is impossible to write even a sentence for you to read without you garnering some strange insult." When is that going to happen? Are you referring to your first comment? Maybe this part ". . . . but the stench of your evil permeates cyberspace and sets an example to all of what not to be." Notice how I have used the proper format of quotation denoting that I am quoting a partial sentence? A consideration that I have come never to expect from you. I could also take the words out of context, twist their meaning, claim that I have never insulted you and deny every last one of my insults towards you if you prefer. You after all do these things routinely.
Claiming to be a proponent of worthy ideals in the name of God is a bitch ain't it? You just can't go around lying about others without some sorry assed atheist calling you on it. This is a good one as well: "The clear thing is that neither of you want to participate in a cordial relationship." . . . I can't speak for Kooka here but I have lots of friends on this site that I have cordial dialogue with on a continuous basis. There is however one common thread amongst all of these people, many of which are devout believers, they all practice what they preach. Not one of them has approached me in the manner that you have and continue to do in insisting that I must acknowledge some invisible being they invented. Not one of them has played the games that you have, hurled the unsolicited insults that you have nor denied any of their transgressions as you do continuously.
In a word they are all honest people. You might want to look that word up.
posted by
gomedome
on September 26, 2007 at 1:24 PM
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Oddy, go to Hell. I am so tired of you
Look at how you ended that comment. Can there be anything more insulting than to make the ignorant and idiotic claim of "Atheism is nothing less than the empty abyss!" You are not wanting to get along with us at all, that much is clear beyond clear.
And you wonder why I don't want to try and get along with you?
And I have never once made any such claim that I embrace nothing. But since you do not understand English very well, I guess you are unable to grasp what I keep on saying.
You have lied, you have insulted and you obviously hold no respect at all for other people's beliefs. What you just said was way, way out of line. You said nothing at all of value and basically showed yourself to be a sad little man with nothing of value to show.
Be a real man for once and stop the lying, stop the insulting comments and stop being a total and complete ass.
Go and ask those believers here who we get along with great, such as FineYoungSinger there. We have disagreed and we started out of a rough footing, but due to her having respect for other people's beliefs and not being an insulting jackass, such as yourself, we can get along fine and exchange ideas freely.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 26, 2007 at 1:17 PM
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Kooka & Gome –
Seemingly it is impossible to write even a sentence for you to read without you garnering some strange insult. You are over-sensitive and obviously inflicted with some deep hatred against believers that is quite hard to fathom. This ridiculous contention that I have somehow lied to you is totally preposterous! What possible motive could I have for wanting to do that?
The clear thing is that neither of you want to participate in a cordial relationship. What you want and thrive on is discord, dispute, and horrible conflict. You take absolutely no positive step to produce peace, but rather fuel the fire with shocking untruths and horrible name-calling. You do everything to display that you have no morality. In fact, your blogs and everything about you reeks of an absence of morality. And then you turn around and question why people can’t understand that atheists can be moral too. It’s plain, because you neither display morality, abide by morality, or purposefully seek it in the world. In fact, my observation is that you purposefully seek to destroy morality.
Your raving has not stopped on this site. In fact, I left blogit entirely for eight months and returned to still find you raving. Your agenda is to promote an iconoclastic message on blogit so why don’t you just admit it? Why do you wish to put on these demonic facades and be so nasty to people all the time? Why can’t you try to be nice and stop being so sensitive about everything? Why can’t you see that people cannot respect your beliefs because you have no beliefs! By your own admission you embrace nothing. Atheism is nothing less than the empty abyss!
posted by
telemachus
on September 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
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Gome and Kooka, you guys are awesome.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on September 26, 2007 at 11:50 AM
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kooka_lives - comments such as the one earlier still shock me somewhat
Not so much in that I am ever surprised at what comes from this source but moreso in wondering if the author of these types of nonsensical words actually believes what they are saying? Is it possible that a grown man can believe that a blog that is read by 15-20 people these days with all of them on a membership restricted site "pollutes" the 30 billion estimated daily page views of today's cyborspace? In an earlier comment, I mentioned how some people think that hurling insults at people they disagree with is a priviledge held by only them. To use your words: "Don't you just love it when someone comes along and demonstrates for us exactly what we are saying?"
posted by
gomedome
on September 26, 2007 at 11:20 AM
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telemachus - I've challenged you before on this - put up or shut up
One example is all that you need to prove your insinuation of my insulting people and you are quite aware of the one caveat to this proof. It must be an example where I initated the insult and was not insulted by someone first. Just one example is all that it would take to prove your point.
This is the funniest thing you have written in awhile:
"I have never lied here about anything and my posts have done nothing but sincerely uplift truthfulness."
Can you really make this statement in sincerity? Do I have to drop a few more links demonstrating your lies and embarrass you again? Your attempt at reconciliation was rather humorous as well, I simply missed it. Little wonder considering that it relied on me reading your posts which I don't do very often and once I did go back and read where you are making this claim, it was not clear who you were speaking to. How can someone who has not had dialogue with you for over 4 months still be considered your nemesis?
Then there is the consideration of what happens once I do forgive and forget your atrocious and harassing behavior of the past few years. The same old nonsense starts all over again. Who in their right mind would invite a fixated religious numbnut with a twisted vision of right in wrong to harass them? As you are not capable of looking at things like a normal person let me explain that last insult; your comment to me is laced with insults, I've thrown one back at you, this doesn't count as an example that I am challenging you to produce simply because you have prompted it. Though I fully expect you to do what you have always done; you will write a post about how I called you a "fixated religious numbnut" while developing amnesia about what prompted such a remark. This type of reprehensible and extremely childish behavior must be part of the "spiritual message" and the "uplifting of truthfullness" you claim to be a proponent of . . . too funny.
Get help buddy.
posted by
gomedome
on September 26, 2007 at 9:44 AM
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And then Oddy
You go and write yet another post filled with pure ignorance and stupidity and because you cannot handle me pointing out how foolish your posts are I am blocked form replying to you. Seriously, you show yourself to be as clueless as it gets about atheists and atheism. I have yet to find one atheist who has anywhere near as absurd a view of life as you do, who is anywhere near as bitter or filled with a total lose of hope as you clearly do. I mean you really seem to hate humanity because you have no faith at all in them and instead insist that they can do nothing of value or good without your little invisible friend to help them.
If you weren't such an ass all the time, I might be able to fell sorry for you. It is way too clear that your life lacks the joy and beauty of mine. After all I am not the one who has a need to go and try and trick, convert and push people into my way of thinking as a means to justify my beliefs.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 26, 2007 at 9:26 AM
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Oddy
Did you just claim to not ever lie here? Now that is comical. I mean Gome and I have caught you in so many lies... Can you actually lie about not lying with a straight face?
And Oddy, my misguided and delusional acquaintance, Gomedome is not he one who in one breath says we need to try and get along then a moment later insults a complete group of people with ignorant comments. I know I will never try to get along with someone like you who wishes to insult and tear down everyone who does not share his narrow minded set of beliefs.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 26, 2007 at 9:17 AM
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Oddy
Where the hell do you get off pretending to have any clue at all about what is and is not rude?
As for you once more showing a true and total lack of understanding in English, I never called your writing comical. It is insulting and it is pure 100% grade AAA bullshit. But you don't care about that. I am just such a horrible person because I dislike it when you make ignorant statements or lie and so on.
Oh, and you used the word 'bullshit'. I didn't know you were such an immoral person. Repeating those naughty words like that. I think maybe you need to go and get your mouth washed out with soup so that God will forgive you for your immorality.
posted by
kooka_lives
on September 26, 2007 at 9:13 AM
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Gomedome – You are wrong and many people here see how wrong you are!
Your mode of action is to hurl the most vile and derogatory insults that you can think of at people with which you disagree and, quite unfortunately, you’ve become the very epitome of insult. It is how people on-line recognize and think about you! It is what you stand for! Fortunately most people here have come to see how wrong your worldview is.
I have never lied here about anything and my posts have done nothing but sincerely uplift truthfulness. And what frustrates you to no end is that your evil untruths cannot affect me. Your total rejection of any effort for consolation is nothing but clear evidence that you desire hatred and controversy. It is what you feed upon and embrace. It is the example that you wish to parlay out onto the world.
Hopefully every atheist is not like you, but the stench of your evil permeates cyberspace and sets an example to all of what not to be. You harbor only the lost and hopefully even they will eventually free themselves of your hopeless message.
posted by
telemachus
on September 26, 2007 at 8:25 AM
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Kooka - Referring to someone else’s serious writing as “bullshit”,
“comical”, and “insulting” is very indicative of rudeness, which is demonstrated quite clearly in this very post.
posted by
telemachus
on September 26, 2007 at 8:15 AM
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kooka_lives - one thing I find rather astonishing amongst a lot of people
think this way is how they think hurling insults should be entirely their priviledge.
I cannot count how many times, someone has stopped into my blog, said something they knew was insulting yet reacted with utter shock when I returned the favor. With many of these same people who are so willing to throw the first stone, then accusing me of not being able to carry on civil dialogue? Then of course some of them deny everything they say. There is no point attempting any kind of dialogue with a liar. If a man cannot stand behind his own words, especially when they are published in a public forum for all to see, he isn't a man, he's still a boy.
posted by
gomedome
on September 25, 2007 at 11:15 PM
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wow.
Just, wow.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on September 25, 2007 at 7:29 PM
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