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Re: FineYoungSinger - in answer to your last question

Scarier than hell. 

"The human animal inherently manifests a long list of shortcomings that somehow take the most worthy of ideals and make them unworkable in practice."  This is a spot-on observation.

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 26, 2007 at 8:45 PM | link to this | reply

FineYoungSinger - in answer to your last question

I don't believe that we are dealing with someone who is "for real" myself. I think that a few of us are being had by a juvenile mind playing a game where he tries to think of ways to be annoying. There is a huge inconsistency that I have never been able to reconcile in that he is one of the most gifted writers on this site. Capable of extremely articulate, long flowing treatises that are a pleasure to read and a testament to the proper use of the English language. That is "a pleasure to read" when they are not loaded with such mindless, disjointed logic or confused and ridiculous crap that he routinely posts when the meds wear off. You need not worry about it however, all you have to do to get along nicely with that person and always be greeted by the perfect gentleman, is to just tell him that you believe in his God. Nothing to it, you will always be dealing with Dr. Jekyl. Mr Hyde is reserved for atheists . . . scary ain't it?

posted by gomedome on September 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM | link to this | reply

FineYoungSinger -I would correct you on the fact that believers do not have

the market cornered on hypocrisy.

 . . .  it is truly a universal human trait that transcends all denominational and philosophical barriers. A shortcoming that every last oxygen sucking bi-pedal should attempt to recognize in themselves. I do however, think that I catch your drift completely.

The underlying philosophies of all organized religions, are almost universally premised upon worthy ideals. Derivatives of these philosophies, things such as the golden rule, complete the framework of life guiding precepts and if they were to be applied alltruisticly in our daily lives, human beings would have very few interactive issues. But as we all know life doesn't work this way. The human animal inherently manifests a long list of shortcomings that somehow take the most worthy of ideals and make them unworkable in practice. I totally agree that amongst these shortcomings is the penchant to blame others and is one of the largest contributing factors to the world "going to Hell in a handbasket".

posted by gomedome on September 26, 2007 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

PS. ONE QUESTION....

Is that guy for real?

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 26, 2007 at 2:07 PM | link to this | reply

Re: FineYoungSinger - very well put - how can anyone disagree with your logic?

HAAAHAA!!! too funny! NO, NO, It's me that's always right!!!  hahahahaha!

But sadly, gome, this is a terrible trait among many that claim to be believers---because it's very easy to point out the flaws in others, but much, much harder to look in the mirror and find the flaws within yourself.  If you ask me, this is why the world is going to "hell in a handbasket" so to speak---people are always looking for someone else to blame for their own problems, shortcomings, whatever, and never bother to worry about their contribution to society's ills...but I digress.  You'd think it would be a matter of common sense.  Isn't this simply following the golden rule?  Who in their right mind would want to be judged, bashed, or ridiculed for their beliefs?

The Gospel to which I try very hard to adhere says: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"  I'm not putting the chapter and verse number.  If someone wants to find it, they can look it up.  I could also list other verses and quotes that echo similar sentiments, but the bottom line is this: Christians are forbidden to judge.  End of story.  Yet look at how many do it all the time: some call it "Christ living in me", others apply circular logic, and both groups make themselves look like hypocrites.

Anyway, this is a great conversation.  Again, thanks for keeping this blog alive.  It's through these sorts of discussions that I evaluate my beliefs and achieve growth.

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 26, 2007 at 8:22 AM | link to this | reply

FineYoungSinger - very well put - how can anyone disagree with your logic?

But the reality is that there are some who merely pay lip service to the notion of not sitting in judgement over others. For some people, that is all they do, judge others while completely ignoring their own shortcomings. With an inability to admit that they could be wrong and seeming incapable of conceding that their religious views are merely one person's opinion, they chronicle for us everything that is wrong with other people.  What is wrong with this world is always blamed on someone else or another group. Everyone else is wrong except them. Don't those damned fools realize that they couldn't possibly be right because everyone else is wrong except me? (just kidding) . . . if I do ever come across as holding that opinion of my opinion, I would consider myself a complete failure.

 

posted by gomedome on September 26, 2007 at 6:46 AM | link to this | reply

Well I for one am glad you've found some new inspiration to keep this blog

alive.  This was a very well-written piece, both in form and in content, as was the previous post.  I address both in this comment.  

I am a believer, and proud of my faith.  But guess what?  That doesn't give me any right to sit in judgement over anyone else.  I'll point out those things I disagree with, and welcome a civil discussion over those things, but that's as far as it should ever go.  It's nothing personal---until someone makes it personal.  As you stated, your view of Christ is very different than mine.  And you know what, everyone?  That should be just fine.  Its sort of the whole friggin point of having a mind of your own.

Let me put it this way---if you believe that Christ is God, then you believe He can fight his own battles.  We are not doing Him any favors by slinging mud.  It's through our actions that people will see our beliefs.  Why is this so hard to get?  What does an Atheist think when they see Christians name-calling, slinging mud, misquoting their bibles out of context, passing judgement and damning people to hell; or Muslims doing the same?  I'll tell you, they think exactly what you will find in these posts---that Christianity is a sham, that believers are hypocrites, that God must be a complete asshole (which of course I know He's not---don't dare take this statement out of context) if this is how His faithful act.

Ask any two Christians what they believe, and they'll give you a different answer.  GUESS WHAT?  SAME WITH ATHEISTS!!!  HELLO?!?!?  I don't know any two Atheists with the same reasoning, same ideas, same thoughts regarding religion, same opinions.  Jeez, maybe it's because they're individuals, with very separate, dynamic intellects.

Ok, I'm done.  Now I have to go walk around the building and lower my blood pressure.

Excellent post, gomedome.

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 26, 2007 at 5:58 AM | link to this | reply

Gome -

Hey, at least you got to sharpen the 'ol hatchet. Never know when you'll need it to take down a Martian.

posted by sannhet on September 25, 2007 at 4:28 PM | link to this | reply

He had unblocked me

But he just reblocked me.  I love it when he gives me great things to blog about.  It is almsot like he wants to look like such a fool some times.

posted by kooka_lives on September 25, 2007 at 4:14 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives -it's a simple case of rotating targets, with you being blocked

it was time to dust off an old target and take a few potshots.

The problem is in that I have long since become bored with the game.

posted by gomedome on September 25, 2007 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

The Mentally ill are problematic, ain't they?

posted by kooka_lives on September 25, 2007 at 3:29 PM | link to this | reply