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benzinha:

 

I share your compassion, empathy decency,  and commonsense.

posted by EX_TURPI on December 6, 2007 at 12:17 PM | link to this | reply

dearest Soul Builder, I understand what you ask, I answer with what I know.

There are Russian boys, big boys who think that they want to join the American Russian mafia here in town. Power, money, Hollywood fantasies.

So, you take them to talk to your probation officer brother-in-law, who speaks to the betrayal and sorrow and death and sadness of it all, by giving out facts and statistics and then you ask the boys what they really like to do and try to hook them up with that.

Boxing, cool car building, etc.....You get them some 'healthy' friends and distract them from the bullshit. They are learning much of this crap right at their new schools and so, we need to talk at the schools, to engage the other kids at the school into seeing THEIR opportunity to empathize, to help, to befriend.

We pretty much made universally sexy the whole drugs and violence thing, so when newcomers, having seen our films, want to 'play that game', we cannot blame anyone but ourselves for still having it as an option inside this country. Legalize drugs and take away the profit from Tierra del Fuego to Nova Scotia. Create true rehab situations, and then try to make them disappear by becoming useless and obsolete.....unnecessary, in other words.

If they disregard the American way of things, it is because they don't know what the heck that is. Refugees never go into our houses, eat at our tables, swim in our pools, nor get invited to our Thanksgiving dinners. How can they 'regard' our ways, when untaught, when excluded from 'learning our ways by doing them with us'?

They do not compete for scarce jobs, honey, as I drive them to their 'jobs' around here. Not one, not one, repeat, not one American, other than our Downe Syndrome adults, are working with the refugees on their job sites.

They, here in Tucson, are washing dishes and cleaning toilets and doing tons of laundry at our fabulous resorts, like La Paloma and Ventana Canyon and the Canyon Ranch. They are being bussed from Tucson to a town far away each morning, to work in the fields and inside the green houses, inside the acres of huge green houses and packaging plants of Euro Fresh Farms. I see not one AMERICAN face in the bus windows.

They are forming lines, of safety glass wearing individuals, who assemble things on assembly lines with non-English speaking Mexicans, Nicaraguans and Guatemalans for hours on end.

Any job that has NO interaction, no speaking, hard physical demands and very low pay are their jobs and they take them away from NO American that I have ever seen. I fill out their apps at these jobs and starting pay in $6.75 to $7.45 for that third work shift, the one that starts at 11 p.m. and ends in the morning.

They do NOT coast on welfare. Their agencies, such as the IRC, International Rescue Committee, support them for three months and then they are cut lose. If they apply for welfare, the clock starts ticking and they can only get five years' worth of help. That means that, when their children grow and have babies and trouble, IF mommy or daddy have used up their five years of help, that the now needy grown child can get Nothing from Welfare agencies nor the government, they are non-humans then....and stray dogs will find more kindness in the streets.

If you have ever applied for welfare or cash assistance or anything like that, you know that you put in hours and hours and hours of your time to qualify, you sit in rooms and wait, you get turned down and return and return with more info, to qualify and you often leave hungry and crying...worried and afraid. They are proud people and mostly don't want that kind of help.

There are some who misunderstand in the beginning, thinking that I got shoes, you got shoes, all God's children got shoes, and when I get to America, gonna put on my shoes and walk all over God's America, pick up gold off the streets and have what a 60 year old, middle class American has, within the first six months of life in America. Life soon slaps that dream to the floor.

Could you handle that, if someone did that to you in Russia or China, my friend, placed non-speaking you there and said, now fly, quickly?? I have been an illegal working alien in a foreign country and it stinks, pure and simple. I have also been a new person inside a new country whose languge is Esperanto or Greek to me....and have had to learn to fly. It is why I help, because those scenarios are hellish.

Help them and stop resenting them, you have a thousand times more than they do, both inside and outside and life is scary.

Make them American by showing them what an American is, spending time in their company, doing what you like to do....including them. We create the people that we live with, we sincerely do, create them, whether they are our children, grandchildren or refugees.

 

posted by benzinha on September 25, 2007 at 11:23 AM | link to this | reply

benzinha
I understand your human approach to people coming into this country. It is wise to treat people as human beings and help them. But, when they form gangs, indulge in drugs and violence,showing disregard for the ways of life of people already here, what should we do? When they compete with us for scarce jobs, what should we do? When they remain employed while we can't find jobs, what should we do? We ourselves need help!

posted by Soul_Builder101 on September 25, 2007 at 10:46 AM | link to this | reply