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Well, we damn sure don't make as much noise about our guilty, that's for
sure...
posted by
saul_relative
on September 24, 2007 at 9:02 PM
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We aren't as loud, you just don't know we are there.
posted by
Justi
on September 24, 2007 at 8:46 PM
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Whites aren't in the minority yet, spanish dragon. According to the
U.S. Census, minorities topped the 100 million mark somwhere around the turn of the year. California and Texas led with huge minority populations (33 million between them). It just seems like whites are in the minority. But since there are 303 million people in the U.S., minorities have a ways to go to catch up. Still, considering there are probably 20 million illegal aliens here (and a few of them are Europeans), they don't have as far to go as it looks officially.
But your'e right. The race card thing is past its prime and totally divisive.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 24, 2007 at 8:37 PM
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Media with too much power
to a world of ignorant people. They committed a crime-attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder a little over zelous-non the less these boys committed a crime. I personally dont get all the hype. Get over the race card already. If you haven't noticed PEOPLE-Blacks are the MAJORITY-White people are out numbered by blacls alone and then there are the spanish
, and the asians-sorry if I forgot anyone. It is way over due to discard the race card. We know the system takes and gives what it wants-And life just ain't fair-GET USED TO IT.
posted by
spanish_dragon
on September 24, 2007 at 6:14 PM
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There is little doubt that sympathy for their cause is dividing the races.
I won't talk about this case or even mention it when I'm out and about. I know that if I say what I truly believe to be the facts of the matter, I'll be branded a racist. Sadly, Nautikos, that is what it has come to anytime there is a black/white issue. The lines get drawn primarily along racial lines and even if you're the voice of reason, simply because you do not fall on one side or the other, you're a racist on one side and a disappointment on the other. It really wouldn't bother me too badly if these boys got a slap on the wrist, but they damned sure shouldn't be set free. Another kid was brutally assaulted and beaten while he was unconscious, testified to by several eyewitnesses. I do not give a damn what color any of them are. Playing the race card is incendiary and meant to be obfuscatory. People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the NAACP just fan the flames of racism to get their faces in the news, claiming to fight for civil liberties and racial equality while they carelessly divide people even more.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 23, 2007 at 8:35 PM
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I agree, Frankenkitty. That's why I posted as I did. They're distorting
what is real, looking back on separate incidents through a racist lens and conflating the incidents. Must everything be racist because it happens in the South? I see this as six boys beating up another kid because he was a smartass or something. But they took it too far. So prosecute them for assault and conspiracy. Then let it go, people...
posted by
saul_relative
on September 23, 2007 at 8:25 PM
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Saul
As usual, you have stated your case very well. From north of the border, it appears to me the protesters have merely harmed their cause, unless their aim is to help widen the racial divide...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 23, 2007 at 7:13 PM
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I don't trust the media.
They get paid to sensationalize stories. They spin things to get attention and bring in sponsors. As for the poor kid, if I were his parents I'd sue the crap out of the parents of the attackers. Then, I sue wherever or whatever place the incident occurred at. I don't even watch the news. It's such crap. And the racial conflict is a headline grabber, so I ignore it. I figure it's some twisted version of the truth. Not that it doesn't happen, but we usually don't hear about it if it's too real. Take care
posted by
Flumpystalls3000
on September 23, 2007 at 6:50 PM
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Right you are, proc. As for learning? Never...
posted by
saul_relative
on September 22, 2007 at 6:39 PM
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I havnt followed this story closely and Ive sort of been discovering it
by reading various bloggers. But what I can pick up is two things I despise. One,people excusing all bad behaviour away based on colour. And two,the media and their exaggerated influence on the world. When will humans ever learn??
posted by
proc
on September 22, 2007 at 1:34 PM
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Oh, it definitely has contributed to the polarization, Matie. Not that
there wasn't already some polarization already. There was. But the conflating of the two disparate issues into a single ongoing conspiracy-like drama is all media-driven, playing on the already prevalent divisions of the town and parrish. The noose incident was an ugly act of racial bigotry and should have been handled better, more severely. The assault incident needs to be handled, period, without regard to the former incident. If one looks at the broader picture, this is more about the projections of adults than the actualities of the incidents among the teenagers.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 21, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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Looks like it, Wavy. And with idiots like Jackson and Sharpton fanning
the flames of racial divide every damn chance they get, it isn't going to get any less polarized either. Ignorance breeds studpidity. Spinning this story of assault into an insidious conspiracy of white against black is disgusting. But they're pulling it off with bravado. And all those people down in Jena beleive they're doing the right thing -- and most of them have no clue as to what they're really doing.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 21, 2007 at 11:04 PM
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I would too give relevance on how the media handled this
as it could have contributed to the polarization.
posted by
Matie
on September 21, 2007 at 7:39 PM
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Re: So far, everything has been peaceful on the Louisiana end, Corbin.
Saul Relative: Observing what is currently happening in Jena, Louisiana proves to me that we are just as racially polarized as during the 1950's or 1960's. We haven't accomplished much, have we?
posted by
WavyDavy
on September 21, 2007 at 7:05 PM
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So far, everything has been peaceful on the Louisiana end, Corbin.
In Washington, they've convened a special committee to look into the situation (you know, like the Schiavo case, sticking their federal noses into a state concern. Their only real concern should be maintaining that justice is served and nobody's civil liberties are violated -- period). It is getting to the point, Corbin, that every issue involving a white person and a person of color is somehow a racist issue. People cannot conduct a decent conversation or debate about these issues without someone screaming "racist", "bigot", or "bias." What the organizers of a march like this Jena Six thing do not understand is that it diffuses the strength of their argument once all the facts are laid bare. It's like crying "wolf".
posted by
saul_relative
on September 21, 2007 at 11:12 AM
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Couldn't agree with you more, TAPS. Listening to the NAACP and Al Sharpton
and certain "good ole boys" will not only show you polarity, but it also shows their own prejudicial, self-serving interests. Without these "causes", people like Sharpton and the NAACP would cease to be. So causes have to be found, and in some cases, invented...
posted by
saul_relative
on September 21, 2007 at 11:04 AM
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It's the same story, FineYoungSinger, but, as with most stories, it did
not begin there, nor are the two connected except as underlying and background material. The strength of the connection lies in 20/20 hindsight and the presupposition that it was a cause of the followup assault incident. Of course, that presupposition lies in the minds of those who use anything and everything to stir up division amongst the races. The students involved and witnessing the second incident have allegedly never even mentioned the first incident, so... I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions on the supposed connection.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 21, 2007 at 11:01 AM
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Saul........
I couldn't agree with you more.......ut it makes a perfect distraction from the goings on in DC....
I'm afraid the influx of all of these rabble rousers....could cause something serious to happen.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on September 21, 2007 at 5:55 AM
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Great post, Saul_relative
It is to someone's advantage to stir things up and keep them going. Those that cry prejudice the loudest and longest are often the most guilty of that same thing.
posted by
TAPS.
on September 21, 2007 at 4:44 AM
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I haven't been following this story.
But I understand that it started with a noose and a tree? Is this the same story?
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on September 21, 2007 at 4:30 AM
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