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Re: FineYoung

I can totally understand why you believe this, because this is exactly how the stories read--the violence, glorifying all that war, pillaging, rape, murders, polygamy, affairs, etc., all by people "Chosen by God"????  Plus it doesn't help that quite a few Christians tend to think--and then preach!--that because it's written in the Bible, it must be a hard fact.  So you can bet that anyone with a good mind for logic would see it all exactly this way.

I guess I'm not like these Christians, because I think that the OT is a pretty good piece of fiction for the most part.  I mean, come on, poof and Lot's wife is now a pile of salt?  a talking snake?  People living to be 948 years old and such?  Conflicting stories (the first of which are found on the first two pages of the Bible)?  Not to mention years and years and YEARS of mistranslations, retranslations, etc.  The Old Testament isn't very reliable factwise.  Plus words have all these whacked-out meanings...numbers mean words, etc.  It's all such a mess.

Not that I'm right, but I approach the Old Testament like I approach all fiction.  I suspend reality a lot when I'm reading OT, and try to look at it more as the understandings of a people on its quest to know and understand God, so I really can't put too much stock in what this group of people claims that God told them to do, because most of the time THEY didn't even get what God was telling them (especially according to the Prophets of the OT).

I don't completely discount it, as there is some "truth" when you read between the lines.  That seems to work for me, because I don't believe that "truth" and "fact" are necessarily mutually exclusive; I believe that there is plenty of truth in a Stephen King novel, and it, just like the Bible, is pretty much just a book.  The Bible is not God.  (Christ is the Word of God, not a book written by men.)  I really think that the Bible is responsible for more division in the Church than anything.  I think it could even be considered an idol.

Anyway, that's my perspective on all this.  I put way more stock in the Gospels and the New Testament, which was written after Christ.  There was better documentation I guess would be the best way to put it.

Regarding the rest of the post...If I might be so bold to add that in addition to drunk driving occurences/accidents being highest between Thanksgiving and Christmas/New Years, the suicide rate is also highest during this time.

I did enjoy the post....you really know your stuff!

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 16, 2007 at 7:54 PM | link to this | reply

Re: I remember that one. - - - I do as well

I remember it as a source of pure entertainment. I still laugh when I read some of the exchanges. I know that my sense of humor needs work but I hope that you got a chuckle out of remembering that one as well.

How else are we to view it but as humor? A poor sap with a vague grasp on reality goes on a quest to become a great minister. A Fallwellian clone. The source of all truth is an ancient book that no one can mess with because God wouldn't allow anyone to change the meaning of the words. His life was a lie, based on a lie, solidified by lies and further exacerbated by lies. Once the humor passes, I expect a wave of compassion for the less fortunate to overwhelm me, but for now I still find it damned funny.

posted by gomedome on September 15, 2007 at 9:19 PM | link to this | reply

~Peace, OTA

posted by Blue_feathers on September 15, 2007 at 5:47 PM | link to this | reply

I remember that one.
I remember when that plagiarized load of bulls#!t was posted here. 
 
Now there was a blogger who only helped us to make out points in everything he did.  I do not miss him in the least.
 
That post was a load of B.S. and it was 100% stolen from elsewhere.  Not a single word of his own in that post, as were most of his posts.  So not only did he follow a batch of lies, he went and stole a batch of lies to pass off as his own thoughts.
 
Gotta love those nut-jobs who make believers look really bad.

posted by kooka_lives on September 15, 2007 at 5:31 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - this post is a good overview of the origins of Halloween

but did you know that the definitive work on the subject exists right here on Blogit?

Yeah, no kidding, if a Blogit member wants to know all they need to know about Halloween all they need to do is go: HERE

posted by gomedome on September 15, 2007 at 12:03 PM | link to this | reply

Chyrlann
The link you put up ain't working

posted by kooka_lives on September 15, 2007 at 9:43 AM | link to this | reply

FineYoung
God still made the demand of Abraham for a human sacrifice as the test. The demand was still there. Yes, God stopped it AT THE LAST MOMENT (I've written about how messed up that whole thing was in the past and how sick a mind God would have to have to play such a game, but we won't go into that here.)  So the demand was still made for a human sacrifice.  That cannot be changed, even if God stops it before it happens.  I never said the sacrifice happened, just that it was demanded. 
 
Also, we could look at any time that God demands people go to war or die for him in some form or another as human sacrifice.  Just because he does not have the person killed through ritual, does not mean there was not a sacrifice made to God of a human life.
 
But that is just getting anal.  God did demand a human sacrifice of Abraham's son.  There is no doubt of that.
 
Glad you liked the post.

posted by kooka_lives on September 15, 2007 at 9:43 AM | link to this | reply

Just a little comment here:  "Remember that in the Old Testament God demands both animal and human sacrifices to him."  God only demanded animal sacrifices.  Remember, Abraham never did plunge the knife into Isaac's chest--God stopped him mid-plunge.  So his demand was not really a demand but a test.  There was one other incident of human sacrifice described in the book of Judges, but as the story goes, the Judge that killed his daughter was not granted the favor asked through the sacrifice.  Otherwise, this is a good post.  virtually typo-free!

posted by FineYoungSinger on September 15, 2007 at 7:57 AM | link to this | reply

Oh, Hallows Eve....one of my favorite celebrations! Poo poo to gobblty goop

regarding that day. I pretend to be anything or anyone I want to be on that day! It is also my celebration into my favorite season Autumn and my favorite costume is Elvira's curvacious sister! My apparel is conservative but on this day it shocks the socks off everyone who knows me. Now what could be more fun than that?

http://www.blogit.com/Blogs/Picture.aspx/Chyrlann/Aunti,%20the%20dragon%20&%20the%20bumble%

posted by roadscross on September 14, 2007 at 3:40 PM | link to this | reply