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I saw that show too!!!
And it totally pissed me off the way the grandparents were in denial, especially grandpa's 'I was possessed by the devil' defense. That man needs a jail cell with a great big mean guy named Bubba who will teach him a few new tricks about NOT touching children. Devil my backside!! He's a dirty old man.... Give us a break!!!
posted by
Witch_Writer
on August 15, 2007 at 3:57 AM
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kooka_lives - when it is considered how long this has been going on, with
the same half baked arguments constantly resurfacing, it is safe to say that something is amiss.
Despite the very human penchant to find fault with those we disagree with, we can say with some certainty that the actions we have witnessed from some people in this forum border on insane. I for one will never understand how persons of otherwise reasonable intelligence, can go to such ridiculous lengths to prove a point that is contradicted by all aspects of real life. We have no choice but to conclude that when someone attempts to discredit another person to prove a prejudicial religious opinion and is frustrated time and time again in their efforts but still continues, that there is something wrong with them.
I cannot fathom what motivates someone to make themselves look like such fools. How many times does it have to be illustrated for someone that atheism and all professed degrees of non belief by their very nature are inherently honest? To wade into conversation after conversation lying and attempting to use evasive, deceptive or disingenuous tactics amongst those who have looked at all aspects of life in as honest a light as they are capable, is classless, distasteful and downright childish. It is also incredibly stupid but this is what I have always maintained is amiss. At least one of these people is not stupid, it has to be a tactic. It is either that or there is a really serious mental disorder at work. Both you and I are not mental health professionals, it is probably best to leave the therapy to those in the field but we do have every right to defend ourselves against their self righteous transgressions.
posted by
gomedome
on August 14, 2007 at 1:49 PM
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Gomedome
These two are seriously worrying me. I mean it looks like they both needs some serious help to get them to have even a slight grasp of reality. Am I making it worse by snapping back at them? Or do they need someone to kick their asses a little to get them to face reality?
Dealing with the mentally ill via a comments sections just seems wrong to me though. It most likely would be best to just let them be and maybe play along, like I do with my boys sometimes. of course with my boys they know it is all fantasy and that we are playing make -believe, and what we do is not real. These two here don't seem to understand the difference.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 14, 2007 at 1:01 PM
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telemachus
There have been times where I really thought I was just giving you a hard time over the whole concept of you not understanding English, but this time you really have shown you cannot grasp a single thing I say.
I never once said anything close to making the claim that the character worshipped by the Church of Satan was real. Seriously, what drugs do you do?
I make the claim that their fictional character named Satan is less harmful than your fictional character of the same name.
And yes, there are at least two fictional character known as Satan, both fiction. Actually it would not surprise me if there were more out there, but there are only two that we are talking about. I can promise you the Character the Church of Santa worships is not eh same character you have decided to make responsible fro all you bad actions..
Learn English, then go and reread my comment and find for all of us out here where in the world anyone could possible get the slightest idea that I made anything close to the claim that Satan is anything but a fictitious character.Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 14, 2007 at 12:56 PM
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ODD HOW CHRISTIANS DWELL ON SATAN AND JESUS DIDN'T
In fact, in the Bible, I think we find about a half dozen references to Satan.
Satan, of course, means, adversary (or maybe "Devil's Advocate"). In the Book of Job you see that Devil's Advocate role quite well. It is a test. You will also notice that Satan is one of the gang -- gathers with the sons of god at their regular gathering.
Out of these few quite vague references some Christians come up with an entire fantasy and extrapolate an entire universe of evil.
It's like Hell (see my blog on HELL!!!).
these fantasies do more harm than good. because some Christians believe in Satan, many misguided souls become Satan worshippers. Christians then have created a body of people worshipping a mythical being of Christian imagination.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 14, 2007 at 12:22 PM
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kooka_lives - you have one that converses with the devil everyday and one
that . . . . well, we know all about that one.
I wonder if there is a correlation to these comments with some type of medication shortage? They have graphs of crystal meth use that they overlay crime statistics, I wonder if there is a current shortage of antipsychotic drugs. We could do our own graph.
posted by
gomedome
on August 13, 2007 at 9:17 PM
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Kooka….hahaha…..I was wondering how you were going to try to wiggle out
of this one….so at first you were telling Soul Builder how fictitious Satan was and now you are going to tell us all there are really two Satan’s: the fictitious one of the Christians and the real one of the Church of Satan? And you call the latter The Church of Satan’s Satan . Hahaha….You poor boy! If you thought Soul Builder was fantasizing you’re now double fantasizing!
posted by
telemachus
on August 13, 2007 at 8:37 PM
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telemachus (Not a very good new screen name for you)
Actually Oddy, once more it seems you have some issue with the English language. My post about the Church of Satan was about how you and others who wallow in ignorance as you do, prejudge such groups and do not look at the values they hold before deciding if the group is evil or not. I was claiming that their beliefs are equally valuable to Christian beliefs in being beneficial.
The fictitious character of Satan they follow is not as harmful as the one you believe in. Their concept of Satan actually seems to promote being responsible for your own actions.
You might understand such if you actually looked at their belief with an open mind, instead of trapping yourself in ignorance over the name of their deity they worship, which is a much older fictional character than the one you worship or your Satan.
So no, there is nothing in the least hypocritical about what I am saying here. The Christian character of Satan (The Devil, whatever) clearly causes problems due to it being the great blame for all bad things we humans do, while the Church of Satan's Satan has no such idiotic connections. Their fictional character is better than yours bascailly.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 8:02 PM
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Soul Builder
At this point I think we should just end this. It is obvious that you have issue and are most likely on some heavy medications. Nothing you have said here has made any sense and you have yet to do the slightest bit of debating or actually doing anything at all to back up your claims.
I am really thinking this is upsetting you and that you need to just take a break, sit back, take whatever pills you have that help you to return to reality and just understand that there is no point in saying anything more on this subject.
If you don't need me, then why do you keep commenting here?
Listen, I really do not do well with dealing with those who are mentally ill through such correspondence, although I am surprisingly good with people face to face. But since I am not a licensed psychiatrist, I really can't help you at all. I have seen many like you here on Blogit and I have found it best to just let them be. I will not reply to any more of your comments unless you actually have something constructive and of value to say to me. It really is going to best for me just to ignore you if you keep acting like this.
If it makes you feel better to believe in UFOs, the Illuminati, Bigfoot, The Devil and all that other stuff, then go ahead. Just please do not try to make me for one moment believe any of it.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 7:51 PM
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Actually Kooka, you yourself have defended the Church of Satan
in this very forum. Or were you just defending The Church of Satan’s right to believe in a fictitious character? And, if so, why do you not chastise the Church of Satan the same way you do Christianity? It is quite apparent that you are hypocritical in this regard and adhere to a double standard.
posted by
telemachus
on August 13, 2007 at 7:48 PM
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Re: Soul Builder
You can study as much as you want! My last 41 years of having SATAN and EVIL people deciding my life is enough! Call them plain EVIL or ILLUMINATI, I don't friggin' care! Your tidy world is yours! And I would suggest keeping your excreta away from GOOD people! We don't need you!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 7:26 PM
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Soul Builder
Wow, you really know how to debate here don't you?
Can you proved the slightest bit of proof to what you say?
Now let's try to DEBATE. If you do not understand the word, I can try to help you there. I have tried to teach many who suffer from the same issue you seem to suffer from how to debate, although few seem to be able to understand the concept. But just spitting out nonsense proves nothing at all.
If you wish to continue this, try to actually say something, anything, productive and useful to your claims. So far you have just made yourself look to be the fool.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 7:24 PM
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Re: Soul Builder
You are a JOKE really! Your words are barren! So try me, TWIT! Man-made concept? In your slumberland, you do not see who is pullin' the strings! AMEN !
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 7:19 PM
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Soul Builder
Evil is a man made concept and can only work when motivation is applied. In nature all things are truly neutral.
Just because you deal with you own dark side daily and have somehow decided to call that 'The Devil' is no proof at all that the fictitious character presented by the Christian myths is real.
Now I have read some of your blogs and various comments and cannot help but wonder what you do not believe in.
Your way of thinking only serve to promote immoral actions and allow people to justify the 'evil' they do.Right now in my eyes you are making yourself look to be a person who has a very week grasp of reality. I've seen many such people here on Blogit before and I have yet to see one of them make the slightest amount of sense. So far you seem to fit that mold really well.
I am curious as to why 'The Devil' should be afraid of messing with you though. That really made me laugh, but I am guessing you did not mean that to be a joke.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 7:10 PM
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Re: Soul Builder
Sorry! I know the DEVIL firsT hand! And your prognostifications are wrong! Evil does exist and is 'destroyable'. Now, if on evil's side.... I say STOP ME!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 6:54 PM
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Soul Builder
Do you really want me to go into this? I have studied the origin of the character of Satan. I know where the concepts came from that were used to create him in the Christian mythology. What you fight is your dark side. we all have a dark side that is part of us and when we control our lives we are able to keep that dark side in check. It is not any form of outside forces, it is ourselves. I can openly admit that I have a dark side and that I have dark thoughts, but due to having common sense and understanding responsibility and integrity and such, I am able to keep my dark side from having power over me.
Are you afraid of your dark side? Are you unable to take responsibility for yourself and so you need this concept of the Devil?
Trust me, you have no proof of what you claim. All real, scientific, provable evidence points to there being no such thing as the Devil.
But of course I wish for people to be responsible and control their actions, you seem to wish for people to just do as they please and blame the Devil for their actions.
Seriously, you really don't want to go there. You will be debating with an empty hand if you wish to try and prove to me or anyone with the slightest amount of sense, that the Devil is anything more than a fictitious character.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 6:46 PM
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Re: Kooka
And if the DEVIL is concerned for his own safety.... he will steer away from me!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 6:44 PM
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Kooka
The DEVIL is not a fictional character! I interact with him on a daily basis! I tell him STFU and he has to abide because he knows . Now you are telling me he is fiction! SORRY, The DIE HAS BEEN CAST!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 6:19 PM
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Soul Builder
That kind of thinking, such strong belief in a fictional character, only serves to cause problems and allow people such as that guy to find his own justification for his actions. You are basically being an accomplish to these actions by doing all you can in encouraging them.
Satan, The Devil..whatever you wish to call it, is nothing more than a fiction used to control and trick people. Belief in this fictitious character causes great harm and does nothing at all to aid our society.
You are saying not to condemn the 'vassel', but the 'vessel' is saying he did nothing wrong, that it was the Devil that did it. That is what I condemn more than anything. Because of this idiotic belief in the Devil, this guy is not going to do the slightest to step up, be a man and take responsibility for his own actions. And here you are telling me that he shouldn't have to.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 13, 2007 at 6:08 PM
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The Reverend KOOKA
The DEVIL is in the middle of all action on EARTH. This is his only ZONE OF POWER! And he is very active in these , his last days. While I do not support the evil he influences, I would not condemn, totally, the vessels that sinned! Pay the price of transgression but help the sinner all the same!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on August 13, 2007 at 5:09 PM
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CHRISTIANITY CREATED THE DEVIL AND THIS MAN'S EXCUSE
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 13, 2007 at 4:38 PM
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