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Well, I guess its just as hard to understand how it is to believe

in something that you never believed in, as it is also hard to understand how someone doesn't believe in anything at all. And it's even harder to admit that everything you believed in since you were born, actually doesn't existe.

Hey, I cried for days when I discovered Santa didn't existe!

Either way with Santa or no Santa, God or no God we all need something to believe in - ourselves.

 

posted by Sheilah on August 8, 2007 at 6:12 PM | link to this | reply

Sheilah
While I have been 'crucified' be believers because I do not believe as they do, I can promise I do not hate God.  For one thing to hate something, you would first have to believe that something to be real.  I just do not believe in God.
 
I have yet to understand why some people are unable to separate 'non-belief' and 'hate'.  I do not believe in God because I just do not believe in God, it has nothing to do with hate in the least.
 
For the post mart I do agree with what you have said, the problems are all man made.  Belief in God or not, most of the real issue that I bring are have been caused by man's influence.  That has often been a theme I have tried to get across to others.

posted by kooka_lives on August 8, 2007 at 2:04 PM | link to this | reply

Better stop reading now – I have digested enough for one day!

Let me see if I can organize my thoughts here. I really don’t know where to start because I don’t like discussing religion – everyone is free to believe what they want as long as they don’t impose it on me.

First of all, I must say that your blog does seem like you have something against people who have a religion of some sort. Seems like you’ve been “crucified” by the “followers” for not believing in God  and now you hate God because of it.

Now I have to admit that I agree with some things you say but I wouldn’t blame God or Jesus or the Holy cow for how it.  

Let me tell you what  I think God is, before I continue. To me God isn’t a “something” you worship. To me God is an expression. An expression of love, charity, gratitude, hope. God is about being the best we can and helping people be the best they can so our lives and the world can be a better place. God showed us this through Jesus. Jesus was just the example of goodness for us to follow. But these religious institutions say God will punish you if you don’t do this or that.

God didn’t say it, men said he did. God doesn’t punish or judge you. Men do.

God is a smart guy, and he just wanted to share his knowledge. He knows that with every action comes a consequence. So he says: “Thou shall not kill” – not because you’ll go to hell, but because he knew you’d pay for it here on earth.

He said: “Thou shall not desire your neighbours wife” – not because you’ll go to hell, but because he knew that your neighbour would come knocking on your door with a shotgun.

So God is knowledge, knowledge is power, and like all power, can be dangerous when in the wrong hands.

I think most religious institutions do all these horrible things as a means of controlling and manipulating people – all in the name of God and the Bible or other “writings” - some people just don’t have the means – intellectual or other – to escape from under this control.

I was raised a Catholic and I really do understand what you mean. I don’t agree about how these institutions handle a lot of subjects (divorce, sex etc) . But I have been able to go beyond what they “preach” to what I think is the true meaning of what God, Jesus and the Bible.

So if you’re a simple human being doing the best you can to be the best you can and helping people along the way – than your manifesting the power of God – even if you don’t call him God – he is proud of you just the same.

You don’t get in the way of God for being who you are – you get in the way of men!

Well, I better stop here because this is a subject that has so many points of views, non of which are righter than others…and I could go on and on and on….

posted by Sheilah on August 8, 2007 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

Goodness

 

Those who are giving of their wealth, both spiritual and material, without prospect of reward or salvation, are the good in this human experience.  We need more of them to help us turn the course of religious "armeggedon" that is pressing on all humanity, all life on our only home, Earth.

Here's "to the Good, in Man." (Legend, Tangerine Dreams)

FR

posted by freerain on July 11, 2007 at 8:44 PM | link to this | reply

kooka_lives - it is amazing that after all of these centuries and all of

what we see with our own eyes that people still have trouble with this notion:

". . . not understanding how one can live a good, moral life without actively worshipping anything or following any form of religious ideas" How blind does one have to be to reality to continue to support the premise that this notion is tenuously built upon? That being: . . a belief in God makes someone a better person. Where are these better people? Just as the believer who mindlessly blathers on about the evils being perpetrated in our societies by atheists, despite the fact that there is not a shred of evidence to support a word they say . . . where are these better people that are believers? Are they watching the secret prisons that are full of all of the bad atheists? . . . no?  . . . then where are they? I can tell you exactly where they are: They only exist in the minds of believers. People are people, religious belief can only be a vehicle to manifest the inherent qualities or shortcomings of the individual. In just as many cases, religious belief provides cheap justification for just about anything. Including attempting to garner consensus for mindless catch phrases such as: "worshipping nothing" 

The facts that the world is comprised primarly of believers and the world is going to hell in a handbasket are not mutually exclusive realities. It is not a minute percentage of non believers that are guilty of what ails this world. . . . It is every last one of us.

  

posted by gomedome on July 8, 2007 at 5:32 PM | link to this | reply

cool i like this very well said

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