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Hi Bhaskar - thanks, matey!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 23, 2007 at 12:14 PM
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First Class Tony, the drop, the moon , the universe...Everything!
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on May 23, 2007 at 10:09 AM
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Hi Kabu - thanks for those interesting comments.
The drop of moisture idea is me imagining what the universe might look like from a long way out, not a drop of moisture itself, but having said that, some people have imagined that tiny things are whole universes in themselves, even atoms, and I agree with where they're coming from. If there is such a thing as infinity, then there might not just be infinity on the large scale, but also infinity on the small scale, too, with ever smaller and smaller worlds far smaller than the atom. Possibly, anyway.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 23, 2007 at 1:50 AM
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Hi Drohan - yes, time does exist as a concept of course, and society
uses it, but I don't believe it exists in nature (although Einstein does suggest there is such a thing as space-time, but this according to him did not exist before the Big Bang, which is slightly nonsensical. If things can exist, i.e. the stuff that exploded without time existing, then time can't be needed at all for stuff to exist. And that's only one proof that time does not exist. there are others.) I'll talk to you later as I too have no time, I have to get to work!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 23, 2007 at 1:46 AM
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Hi Enigmatic - damn, he's serious. Okay, okay. How much d'you want?
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 23, 2007 at 1:43 AM
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Hi Pat - yes, you're right, this stuff is quite Zen. Thanks -
a nice observation! It could well be difficult to get sometimes, Pat. That's probably the difficulty of trying to make certain points in a 14-line sonnet structure. It's an absurd thing to try and do, quite frankly. It's quite good fun, though!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 23, 2007 at 1:41 AM
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Tony
all things pass in our world, all life is finite. The infinite we don't understand. Our ego stands tall we believe in our mortality little thinking while we are young in our imortality... which will not be. I love the thought of a univers in a drop of moisture.
posted by
Kabu
on May 22, 2007 at 9:48 PM
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thanks friend i love to do that when i will be having time 
now we could write about the time as it is always stealing me but the problem that i do not have much from it , this means that the time is a measured factor as it is finishing as any other material things so this prove that it exist ......sorry TONY these words are born now so we will work on it later ,thanks again.
posted by
drohan254
on May 22, 2007 at 8:41 PM
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Tony
I beg to differ - I presume you're familiar with the word, "blackmail?" "Monty Python's F. C." did a hilarious sketch on this! LOL!
posted by
Enigmatic68
on May 22, 2007 at 7:17 PM
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Wonderful poem . WEll written .
posted by
afzal50
on May 22, 2007 at 5:57 PM
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Geez, "you're bending my mind"
NO, that, (what i just said), was not Shakespere, but the Beatles. The rose quote, "what's in a name? aArose is a rose by any other name" (hope that's right-been many years) is very Zen, as is this poem. Read it like 3 times. Still don't know if i totally get it. Dif i mention Zen?..Excellent poem.
i try to read ur stuff daily, but haven't been, sorry.
posted by
Sudanym_
on May 22, 2007 at 4:53 PM
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I don't think it exists any longer, Enigmatic!
I did bring a copy home to the UK but it was unplayable on our machines, and by the time I tried to get it transferred years later, the tape seemed to have deterirorated so it got thrown away. A shame cos I shot quite a lot of film while I was over in the states. But I'm pretty sure there are no copies of it anywhere. It would truly be as fruitless as the quest for the Grail - and also far less worthwhile!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 3:48 PM
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Not tonight, Mary - as Napoleon would say -perfectly sober!
A little bit tired - maybe that's the explanation! No, what it is, is I'm thinking philosophically at the moment because i'm working towards a philosophical book. Some of the recent sonnets have reflected some themes I've been thinking about - not for hours on end, or anything, just an hour here, an hour there. I'll be doing some more soon, in bed, while the neighbours make their noise! I found it quite helpful last night, rather than just lying there with the radio on wasting time. After a sleepless hour and a half, I thought, hey, I should be thinking about the meaning of life. it's a great way to spend an hour or so when the lights are off and there are no distractions. i recommend it!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 3:44 PM
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Tony
Did anyone ever tell you that you have a way with words?!
- By the way, I'm going to pursue (with the relentless fervor of Sir Galahad), that videotape of you doing, "Cars Hiss by My Window!!!"
posted by
Enigmatic68
on May 22, 2007 at 2:33 PM
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Tony, you into the vino? :)
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 22, 2007 at 2:31 PM
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Hi Mary - yes - the space between the nucleus and the electrons is big.
It's rather like the sun and its orbiting planets. The same forces are presumably responsible for the similar physical arrangement of the very small and the very large scale.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 2:30 PM
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Tony, doh me! Of course, Shakespeare.
Tiny vs. large vs perspective, yes, In one of our musuems in Ottawa they placed a huge model of an atom in the room and yes, it very VERY large. Kids try to run through it all the time.
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 22, 2007 at 1:54 PM
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Hi Saul - yes, indeed. But it can be comprehended if we abandon our
relentlessly human scale of thought and vision. You can't use inches, miles, or years, or any of these feeble units. We just need to realise that everything is infinitely small and large in relation to us.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 1:36 PM
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Thanks, Drohan. Yes, I am more than happy to discuss it.
Would you prefer to email, or discuss it on Blogit? I don't mind either. I would enjoy it.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 1:33 PM
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That's right, Mary - it was one of Shakespeare's lines, that.
To my mind, an atom is incredibly large and complex, and a universe is tiny. It all depends how big or small the viewer is.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 1:32 PM
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Thanks very much, Troosha. We have to do our best to grapple with it,
difficult though it is. but it's quite easy if we stop measuring everything by our own dimensions. Everything is incredibly smaller, and incredibly bigger, than that!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 22, 2007 at 1:30 PM
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microscosm within microcosm to macro in a neverending series
of systems existing within systems... it completely escapes direct comprehension. Great poem, Tonyzonit...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 22, 2007 at 1:23 PM
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beautiful thoughts
hi friend forgive me if i will disagree with you these things do exist in my opinion
Like time, truth, soul, life, death and uniqueness,to me they are existing very strongly especially the soul and the uniqueness as both are my friends and i can introduce you to them if you like ,what do you think friend
posted by
drohan254
on May 22, 2007 at 1:05 PM
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Tony
......you are the whole world distilled to one drop in the ocean of life teeming within the universe and back again! That's what I thought about while reading this one. What was the poem, a rose called by any other name? Well done, Tony.
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 22, 2007 at 1:05 PM
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Tony
A recurrent thought with me - that we are a mere speck in a vast universe. What a great poem exploring the tangible and the intangible.
posted by
Troosha
on May 22, 2007 at 12:37 PM
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