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Re: Re: hand guns---for the forseeable future, are a necessary evil...for
scriber, it's an illusion of protection driven by paranoia and fear. It's an evil, but far from necessary.

posted by Cynthia on April 21, 2007 at 7:46 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Like the song says, "Handguns are made for killing, they ain't no good
Saul, I'm all for everything you've said, but we have the powerful gun lobby against us.

posted by Cynthia on April 21, 2007 at 7:45 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Thought inducing post .
Muchas gracias Afzal...

posted by Cynthia on April 21, 2007 at 7:43 AM | link to this | reply

Re: The benchmark question is "How many people shoot back?".
Maj, I agree totally...My worst nightmare is being stuck in a crowded subway somewhere, some sicko pulls out a gun and starts shooting and then everybody else on that same subway car pulls out their guns and I'm dodging bullets...

posted by Cynthia on April 21, 2007 at 7:42 AM | link to this | reply

Re: hand guns---for the forseeable future, are a necessary evil...for
protection.  There should be a restriction on automatic weapons, no doubt. 

posted by scriber on April 19, 2007 at 10:33 AM | link to this | reply

Like the song says, "Handguns are made for killing, they ain't no good
for nothin' else" (Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Saturday Night Special").  Most other guns are made for the same reason -- killing a human being.  But, Cynthia, it is overstating the obvious that, given the prevalence of more firearms, more people will kill themselves using them.  What we need, as majroj suggests, is more restrcitive gun laws, better education concerning firearms, mandatory firearm education for those who pass the strictest screening procedures when purchasing a firearm, etc.  In an ideal world, we wouldn't have firearms, except maybe for target sports.  But we have the most nonrestrictive gun-toting populace on the planet, constitutionally protected, and we have to work within the system we have.  Let's work on making it safer first... 

posted by saul_relative on April 19, 2007 at 10:18 AM | link to this | reply

Thought inducing post .

posted by afzal50 on April 18, 2007 at 6:30 PM | link to this | reply

The benchmark question is "How many people shoot back?".

Even in states where guns are prevalent and easy to carry, they are rarely used in self defense even when it is in crowded conditions (more people=more likely there's a gun or two there), it is obviously life or death,)and the opportunity is there for a shot (always).

Although a relative was once saved by an armed bystander, it was on her own doorstep and the neighbor popped out of her respective adjacent front door with a shotgun which scared the mugger off. If he had been armed... who knows.

Before you are allowed to bear a weapon in the military outside a training environment (where instructors stand behind you bearing their own loaded firearms), you are briefed/taught/indoctrinated about "Use of Lethal Force" as it is collectively called. NO such thing for civilians. I need a prescription to buy and carry hypodermic needles, but I can buy a large bore shotgun and plenty of ammo no problem? Ridiculous.

 

posted by majroj on April 18, 2007 at 8:40 AM | link to this | reply