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This brings back memories, Ariel (happy ones, would you believe?)
posted by
johnmacnab
on March 7, 2007 at 6:30 AM
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And I was reminding you of the fact that many Jewish peoples
settled in northern Greece.(sniffs in a hurt manner)
posted by
Kabu
on March 6, 2007 at 2:08 PM
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Corbin
How right you are! We seem to get more spoilt and pampered, more selfish and more autolotrous with each year that passes.
We're making ours a perilously knife edge life, 'cos the bad guys do know about sacrifice!
posted by
ariel70
on March 6, 2007 at 6:47 AM
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Part of our problem today......
is we don't understand the meaning of sacrifice.....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on March 6, 2007 at 4:51 AM
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Justi
I bet a hell of a lot of folks don't even know that America had rationing too!
posted by
ariel70
on March 6, 2007 at 4:06 AM
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Naut
Scotch?!?! Are you kiddin'? Scotch was for the very rich!
posted by
ariel70
on March 6, 2007 at 4:05 AM
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whinge
Yep, I get that feeling too. Vvery strongly, cos, my grandparents musta been born in the 1850s or thereabouts.
posted by
ariel70
on March 6, 2007 at 4:04 AM
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Kabu
Er ... I just told you that, dear! You really must pay more attention to what grandpa Ariel's telling you ; otherwise you'll be in the corner with a big D on your head!
posted by
ariel70
on March 6, 2007 at 4:03 AM
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Ariel, thinks like this make me regret not taking down more of
what my granny used to tell me, she always had a load of stories.
It's funny because looking at your rationing per person, it seems quite reasonable. Not to compare, but life was quite frugal in my family till the late '80's, and we weren't unused to limits on most of our food, or having offal. My mother sometimes made little dresses for us out of her own cast offs. But at least we had the availability, if not the money.
This just gives a wholly different perspective, a more appreciative one. Too many jokes coming to mind over the parachute silk knickers!
posted by
CringeintheUSA
on March 6, 2007 at 3:28 AM
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Did you know that a large group of Jews from Spain settled in Salonika
and grew in numbers over the centuries. They all disappeared under the occupation.
Kalinicta.
posted by
Kabu
on March 6, 2007 at 3:13 AM
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Ariel70
This is an awesome post. It is different from the USA but I don't have any stats on ours. We ran a grocery store for a part of the war and some people would get riled when you did not let them have what they wanted rather than what they were scheduled to receive. Thank you for this post.
posted by
Justi
on March 5, 2007 at 7:43 PM
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Ariel
fabulous post! And I'm toying with the idea of trying the ration for a month...but I do have an important question: was scotch rationed too?
posted by
Nautikos
on March 5, 2007 at 7:04 PM
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Kabu
Kalispera!
Yes, the Greeks, like the Spanish, have had a real tough time of it over the centuries.
Did you know that the Jews who spoke the most perfect Spanish were the dock workers of Piraeus? Expelled by Isabella and Ferdinand in 1492, their Spanish was never corrupted. Most of them died in Auschwitz and elsewhere.
Back to the story tomorrow.
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 1:39 PM
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The man who draws has told me some terrible stories of starvation in Athens
and I intend to include them in "forgotten times on my post." People died of starvation during the occupation and again while the civil war was on. His mother told me some pretty awful stories too.
ps only cos this is such a good post can I forgive you for leaving the story for a while. Besides its back ground to the times. But....Kabu's watching you!
posted by
Kabu
on March 5, 2007 at 1:36 PM
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Would wait to read the rest .
posted by
afzal50
on March 5, 2007 at 12:27 PM
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this!
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on March 5, 2007 at 11:19 AM
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Pat_B again
This, believe it or not, is 4 font!
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 9:59 AM
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Pat_B
How great that my story's stirring so many old memories!
We'll have to do a separate post on all the comments, won't we?? LOL
God, this damned toolbar's useless! The font keeps going small ; touch the wrong key and everything goes haywire, etc etc etc Hate tha bloody thing! it's worse than the old one!
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 9:58 AM
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I remember WWII, rationing, victory gardens, shortages...
I lived in the area of Washington State near the Hanford Atomic plant where the bombs were made that were dropped in Japan. Ewww, I hate to remember that. The govt. released nuclear steam from the plant to see what impact it would have on people, livestock, etc. and there are still lawsuits and unresolved issues over it. Birth deformities among sheep and cattle, probably among humans, increased levels of cancer among the population of the area, especially the "upwinders" who lived east of the plant - the prevailing winds blew from the west. Mother complained most about the leather rationing - she couldn't keep us kids in shoes.
The comments here are very interesting, too. Victory gardens, salvaging & recycling tin and you couldn't buy a refrigerator -- all the metal was going into the war effort, making bombs and planes.
posted by
Pat_B
on March 5, 2007 at 9:46 AM
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TAPS
What a disgrace! And it's as bad, or worse in Britain and Europe. Hell, most people aren't even aware of of the mini-Holocausts going on right now ; like Congo, Darfur, Algeria ... you name it.
We live in a dream world of reality TV shows and yakking heads.
When will we ever learn that he who knows not his history is doomed to re-enact it.
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 9:19 AM
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Ariel
By the way, I did talk to my grandchildren in Florida about The Holocaust when I was there. It seems that in Florida, The Holocaust is taught in one two-week period in the Eighth Grade. I would think that would not be enough (in 12 years of schooling) to make much of an impression. My grandson here in KC has always home schooled or attended a private Christian school using the PACE Curriculum. The Holocaust learning that he has had in 12 years is one PACE. A PACE is a learning kit with a workbook and test that is completed at each student's pace with additional teaching by parent, tutor or internet. I would imagine that how much is learned would have a lot to do with how important that lesson is to the parent.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 5, 2007 at 9:03 AM
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TAPS
Thank you.
Yes, a hell of a lot of people are unaware that there was any rationing in America, aren't they?
You ought to do a post about it!
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 8:38 AM
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Ariel70
Very interesting. I remember rationing even in KC, MO. I was very little and had no concept of the conditions and war going on in Europe. I knew there was a war going on but that meant nothing to me at the time. But I vividly remember my mom with her ration coupon books for eight people and a large garden and the day the first baby chickens arrived for the chicken house my father had built. Interesting your list of allowances.
posted by
TAPS.
on March 5, 2007 at 7:41 AM
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rich
Ye, I know, I've read a lot about it over the years.
posted by
ariel70
on March 5, 2007 at 7:26 AM
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ariel
situation in Malaya ( Malaysia now ) at that time was far worse. There was widespread poverty and starvation during the Japanese occupation during WWII.
posted by
richinstore
on March 5, 2007 at 7:14 AM
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