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Truth itself is iconoclastic...
which is not to say that all iconoclasts are speaking Truth... A lot of 'em are just knocking down someone else's icons to make room for their own.
I appreciate the statement you've made that the Truth you assert is your own Truth-- for the very same reason that I post my disclaimer of absolute rightness in the sidebar of my own blog.
posted by
Ciel
on February 9, 2007 at 2:57 PM
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My compu playing tricks. Pls delete the 'duplicate'.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on February 9, 2007 at 9:07 AM
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Gomedome, If you think you should, please visit my today's post
for a further elaboration, or rather a broader outlook, on how I view 'Religion', in the wish to create a healthy relationship in understanding. Thank you for saying what you just have.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on February 9, 2007 at 9:03 AM
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Bhaskar.ing - your comment is worthy of a post as a reply
I will have it up in a little while.
posted by
gomedome
on February 9, 2007 at 8:36 AM
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strat - that's funny - I always get a kick out of some of the attempts to
use the scientific method by those who are not conversant with same.
I will always remember the blog title "Darwin's Big Bang Theory" that was intended to show us all what fools we were for not understanding that the only possibility of how we came to be was through creationism.
posted by
gomedome
on February 9, 2007 at 8:15 AM
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Hello Gomedome, Just dropped by to say sorry for my unslolicited comment
yesterday. In fact, Moon's sound voice of reason makes me do this. I have tremendously enjoyed your gritty writes from time to time I visited your blog, only that I may not have commented. Moon rightly points out that dialogue and not confrontation in one-up-manship should be the desired alternative - the one and only option.
In fact, as a beginner at Blogit, I was drawn in to your posts through the banner, "Shoot...Nonbeliever...Jesus", during which time I saw you engaged in a diatribe against name-callings that went on for days, and I lost interest. Upon my seemingly innocuous comment (or so It seemed to me), I felt hit rather hard at your response. Although I write under "Religion", my approach too is one on the lines of questioning and not on plain or listless hollow flabby beliefs that our minds are taught in conditioning. It has been one continuous endeavour of mine to examine the religious injunctions in relation with the real-life experiences as you have said today, from without, as well as from within in the search for wholeness. Practically every moment of my life, including those at the blogit, the seeking is on. And I can tell you that I have found many my superior - call them more evolved - and I shall always remain indebted to such one's. I intentionally am not naming any.
And this has been possible through dialogue and dialogue alone. For me it is never 'either my way or no way', as some staunch 'know-all' believers have tried to force their religious pills on me without experiencing anything themselves. And yes, I too, do not believe in a coloured God - white, black, blue or yellow - sitting somewhere high up in the clouds, meddling with our daily affairs to make us feel sinful and guilty or weaklings. And if religion cannot make us individuals, but only dependents, then I shun such a religion.
I say all this only to make my stand clear, so that you may not harbour any negative opinion for me as one parochial and closed to reasoned sanity.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on February 9, 2007 at 6:59 AM
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It's that old logic thing.
SHow someone logic and the next thing you know they want to try the scientific method to build a fire under the stake upon which they want to burn you. Sheesh.
posted by
strat
on February 9, 2007 at 5:56 AM
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cantey_1975 - I always feel compelled to ask wannabe messiahs if they
forgot what happened to the last one?
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:30 PM
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Whinge - I checked it out, funny stuff - - - I will make a clickable link
from the URL: HERE
For anyone who wants to check it out.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:29 PM
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Xeno-x - I've always maintained that Jesus Christ was just a poor sap they
pinned the messiah medal on.
His followers then fought a no holds barred public relations battle over the ensuing years, to make sure the messiah medal stayed pinned on.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:25 PM
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Talion - I didn't say specifically "when" I was planning on growing up
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:23 PM
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TheCrimsonEchidna - I have no problem with any label that is true or at
least has a ring of truth to it.
Whether or not I am an inconoclast in the sense that it is being used to describe me, is something that I sincerely doubt however. I have seen the user's elaboration of the intended meaning....it was actually quite comical to see what people can come up with. All I could say afterwards is that you meet all kinds online.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:22 PM
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David1Spirit - that is probably the most annoying thing about some of these
brainwashed types.
The sense of entitlement that they insist they do not have. They want total inequity in their favor, a one way street of consideration. . . . but admittedly they are the most fun to wind up.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 8:17 PM
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currently
there is a "messiah" roving about blogit trying attract a following, going about via dusty highways, wearing sandals. Probably sits at the keyboard sporting a scraggly beard.
posted by
calmcantey75
on February 8, 2007 at 3:38 PM
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My apologies Gome, but I didn't know if you'd see this in the post it was
in relation to earlier. I hope this works. 'Father Ted' is a comedy series, 'The Butcher Boy', is an excellent movie, so I agree with you on that count, and also because I'm a 'boney arsed bogwoman' myself.
I will have to post the link to copy & paste in your browser. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1737977595
Once again, my apologies for butting in.
posted by
CringeintheUSA
on February 8, 2007 at 3:12 PM
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i dont think he did either -- just his followers -- clear up til today.
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 8, 2007 at 2:23 PM
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gomedome
You actually
want to grow up? What the hell's the matter with you?
posted by
Talion
on February 8, 2007 at 1:56 PM
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Gomedome
I reckon if the cap fits wear it!
posted by
Antipodean
on February 8, 2007 at 1:49 PM
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Gomedome, you iconoclast you!
Well I guess I must be one too. According to some people when I simply don't agree with their religious beliefs I am viciously "attacking" them. But then again when the tables are turned their input is considered "helping me see the light". Go figure!
posted by
David1Spirit
on February 8, 2007 at 1:25 PM
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SoloWriter - that's it really - not only at the expense of non believers
but a more extensive list of those who are excluded.
If there is one thing that I am about it is that life guiding philosophies or beliefs that are not all inclusive are just more of the same old things that has gotten mankind perpetually in trouble.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 11:28 AM
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Well, if they've been cherishing beliefs at your expense, you've got to set them straight. A sensible person thinks while he's talking.
posted by
Jenasis
on February 8, 2007 at 11:22 AM
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SuccessWarrior - absolutely - science and rational thought
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 10:35 AM
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Science may be the ultimate iconoclast
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on February 8, 2007 at 10:31 AM
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Xeno-x - that's a good point but if there is one thing I am certain about
in my self assessments - I have no messiah complex.
posted by
gomedome
on February 8, 2007 at 9:46 AM
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Jesus was an iconoclast
posted by
Xeno-x
on February 8, 2007 at 9:01 AM
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