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strat - I hear you on that one, just figuring out what goes on in the minds
of the gender that we are attracted to is challenge enough.
posted by
gomedome
on December 19, 2006 at 6:58 AM
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I've never understood why anyone would be able to
justify, in any way, shape, or form, their need to legislate, or even know about, what goes on between consenting adults.
I have never understood homosexuality, but I don't have to. I'm far more concerned about my own sex life than anyone else's.
posted by
strat
on December 19, 2006 at 6:06 AM
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If animals are people hiding in fur, then it's probably just animals that stupid people stick together without thinking.
posted by
Jenasis
on December 17, 2006 at 11:06 AM
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Hi, gomedome,
Certainly, I'm getting a little off topic, here, but, before commenting on how much I enjoyed another of your posts, I wanted to tell you that I recently used that expression, "love the sinner, hate the sin" when writing about my feelings about some of my family members' smoking habit. One of my commenters modified the statement a bit, suggesting, "love the stinker, hate the stink." I'm thinking that maybe that suggestion was a little more appropriate.
Now, on to say that I enjoyed reading this post. I don't know/understand much about homosexuality, but I do know that it's not for me to judge. Maybe, it's not for me to understand, either. I'd like to hope that people can guinely accept others' decisions/lifestyles/predispositions or whatever, and not be critical, judgmental or hateful about it. And yet, I fall short of that when I get on my soapbox about the smoking thing. I'm not proud of that, but it's true. To paraphase a bit from a Bible passage, we have all sinned and fall short of God's glory. I guess that leaves much for us to interpret as for the definition of "sin". Well, thanks. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on December 16, 2006 at 6:55 PM
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Budmannomore - I've had problems with it as well but for different reasons
Where I grew up it was generally thought and accepted that "gayness" could be beaten out of a person. Nothing to it, pound an individual within an inch of his life and you can bet that there won't be any more public displays of gayness. It took awhile and some maturity before I realized how abhorrant and completely shattering this approach would be for the recipient of this "therapy". You mention "immoral behaviour". My first question these days is why would it be mentioned in association with gays? What is immoral about what 2 consenting adults do with their own bodies for pleasure or as acts of love and affection?
I do know the answer however. We have all been conditioned to think this way. Conditioned to include; what should be a person's right to determine and pursue their own happiness, in a cauldron with all of the other acts that we as hetorosexuals find reprehensible or detrimental to society. How, as an example, does same sex sex compare with adultery? The former is an expression of sexual preference and attraction to a mutually attracted individual, while the latter is a breach of sacred trust. Yet many people view these things in the same light.
posted by
gomedome
on December 16, 2006 at 11:13 AM
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Bhaskar.ing - yeah .. . that's what I said
I must be losing it this morning. I read your comment and thought to myself "didn't I just write something similar?" ... It was the lack of quotation marks that threw me off. It is hypocritical to utilize a conveniently selected segment of a holy manuscript to discriminate against others. Especially considering that there is not one person alive on this planet that utilizes the entire manuscript in their daily lives.
posted by
gomedome
on December 16, 2006 at 10:57 AM
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This is a subject I have struggled with.
As a Christian, I struggle with the balance between loving others and not endorsing "immoral behavior." The key for me is understanding the big picture. Love is the bigger picture. I personally believe it is possible for a homosexual to have a personal relationship with Christ and have a loving relationship with his/her significant other (monogamous preferably). As you can tell, I am not a fundie. I believe God is still revealing truth to us today. And that "fundies" or Biblical literalists are trapped in a form of Bible idolatry. I don't believe the writers of the Bible were capable of seeing a common ground in sexual differences and moral behavior.
posted by
Budmannomore
on December 16, 2006 at 7:16 AM
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Gomedome
In the muddled mind of the fundie, the individual is described by and then identified by their sin first and foremost. Then as the fundie is promoting all manner of false information relating to human sexuality as a means of "stamping out" the non contagious threat of homosexuality...I liked the idea, in exposing hypocrisy.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on December 16, 2006 at 4:21 AM
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