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Sunnybeach7 -there are few folks more qualified than me to write a "how to"

book on becoming a messiah.

There might even be a few people on this site working on such a project . . . or was that "how not to?"

posted by gomedome on December 13, 2006 at 11:40 AM | link to this | reply

Cameraeye - that was always the premise used by followers of the messiah
All others are false messiahs. . . . except I would imagine that all messiahs say that.

posted by gomedome on December 13, 2006 at 11:38 AM | link to this | reply

Gome
Mentally imbalanced?  "The very first thing that God apparently told this guy to do was to email gomedome."   I'd say, just a little.

So You Wanna be a Messiah?  Sounds like a good name for a book. Maybe one of those "idiots" versions. LOL
I'm a little disapointed, when I came to read, I seriously thought there may be instructions. Maybe next time?

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on December 12, 2006 at 8:33 PM | link to this | reply

I believe

there is one Messiah, all others must be copies.

Don't know the subject in question,but it is good for us all to discuss God , as you are doing.

Lou

posted by Cameraeye on December 12, 2006 at 8:28 PM | link to this | reply

SoloWriter - that may not be God talking - how soundproof are your

apartment walls?

 

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 8:14 PM | link to this | reply

David1Spirit - that has been my experience - those proclaiming to be

something or another, are usually trying to convince themselves above all others.

Then there are those who do not realize that they have a given mental illness. I've met one individual on this site that is simply a sick man with an unchecked obsessive personality disorder that manifests itself as a messiah complex. I've also run into a few hucksters that have found this medium unsuitable for their con games, at least that was the impression I was left with. Religious beliefs do funny things to the mentally unstable.

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 8:13 PM | link to this | reply

Well, really only those few times when I had to bear the current mess-i-ah, become a world leader and save the world wide church from a pastor's demon bastard.  But, otherwise, he doesn't talk to me all that much ...

posted by Jenasis on December 12, 2006 at 5:50 PM | link to this | reply

Why do people have to make themselves out as "messiah's"?

First of all, it's not some exclusive "club", reserved only for the "chosen" of God. Everyone who has ever lived or ever will live has the same right as anyone else to strive for and reach that level of true higher awareness which will (in about 2 billion years at this slow rate) help our species evolve spiritually.

If a person were to truly reach a level of such high awareness where they would be considered a "messiah" in the first place; would they still retain enough ego to walk around spouting about it?

No, they would be out doing decent and benevolent counsel to those who may be interested in hearing it; through good deeds (not self serving) and words; and would never thrust themselves upon anyone who wasn't interested.

When someone pesters another claiming to be this or that; know for certain that they have some underlying agenda; are probably nuts; or both!

posted by David1Spirit on December 12, 2006 at 5:23 PM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - that one should be in the bad joke hall of fame
There should be laws against jokes that bad.

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 3:15 PM | link to this | reply

MoonSpirit - right on, a philosophy that I find completely endearing is one

I have taken from North America's indigenous people.

"We do not own this earth, we have merely borrowed it from our children" . . . no kidding, let's concern ourselves with things that are finite . . . infinity will take care of itself.

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 3:13 PM | link to this | reply

Gomedome, I've stayed at a hotel in Bangalore, India a few times that has a note stenciled on the mirror above the bathroom vanity: "Be the Saviour of Water." Truthfully, with the way we humans have polluted everything, that alone would be more than enough for me. MoonSpirit

posted by syzygy on December 12, 2006 at 2:52 PM | link to this | reply

Those are the extremes...

posted by A-and-B on December 12, 2006 at 2:15 PM | link to this | reply

THERE WERE OTHER MESSIAHS ABOUT THE TIME OF JESUS

A RABBI OR TWO -- some died without fulfilling the promise -- some were killed.

goes to show you.

reminds me of a joke

there was this Rabbi, hoping to convert a tribe of nomads, called Trids,  to Judaism.

They hadn't decided on a religion yet, see.

So he stayed with them a while and about every month he noticed they all banded together for this strange ritual.

there chief religious guy would stand at the top of a hill and one, by one, the whole tribe of Trids would line up and one, by one, they'd turn their backside to him and he would give them a good, swift kick in the rear.

Well, one month, he thought he'd try it. just to get on their good side.  He got in line and waited and waited.  finally, when he approached the religious head honcho, he was refused.

Going away in despair, he was approached by one of the Trids who explained.

"This is a very exclusive ceremony, in which only Trids can participate."

"Yeah," said another.

"Silly Rabbi, kicks are for Trids."

posted by Xeno-x on December 12, 2006 at 2:09 PM | link to this | reply

It could be that we are a special species in our peculiar propensity
for worshipping the voice(s) of our own Right Brain...

posted by Ciel on December 12, 2006 at 1:17 PM | link to this | reply

That's just too wild and to think he really believed it~
It kind of reminds me of that movie "God Talking" (I think that's the name of it) anyway God starts talking through a radio...This man probably thought he talked through the computer...and of course he wanted to pass that message on to you~YIKES!

posted by Offy on December 12, 2006 at 12:17 PM | link to this | reply

OFFBEATS - yes, I made the mistake of leaving him one comment
I asked him if he knew that this was a site that did not allow advertising or solicitation? .... he left me a nasty comment as a reply, then emailed me to further elaborate on his "ability". 

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 12:03 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel - that's very well put
I feel much the same about whether or not people follow me or even listen to what I have to say on the subject. Ultimately it is unimportant. Example is the only thing that I can offer and trying to get that right takes most of my efforts.

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 11:58 AM | link to this | reply

SuccessWarrior - yep, untold riches await anyone who can pull it off

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 11:56 AM | link to this | reply

strat - I think the messiah gig went into the dumper with the advent of

mass communication.

If not for movies such as Helter Skelter or the Jonestown Story and modern newscasts, peopel might still be able to pull of the "let me lead you to salvation" thingy.

posted by gomedome on December 12, 2006 at 11:55 AM | link to this | reply

There really was someone in here that thought God and he engaged in conversation? He really thought that? Well now that's interesting...but a tad "out there."

posted by Offy on December 12, 2006 at 11:49 AM | link to this | reply

Wanting to be a messiah has its own set of companion symptoms

in the disorders and delusions reference used by mainstream psychiatrists.

I think I am right about what I write about, but I never forget I could be wrong.  But I don't believe I am.  All we ever can really call what we 'know' is what we believe,  about most things... 

I consider myself a philosopher rather than a messiah-- maybe because I don't care if anyone listens or follows my road markers.  Even if I wish they would...  

Hiho!

posted by Ciel on December 12, 2006 at 11:36 AM | link to this | reply

But if you can pull it off, like the Pope, there's a lot of power to be had

posted by SuccessWarrior on December 12, 2006 at 11:36 AM | link to this | reply

Too often folks like that end up
getting everyone on the arsenic Kool Aid train, or some such mass hysteria driven trip to destruction. I think of messianic personalities and Halle Boppe, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson immediately enter my mind.

posted by strat on December 12, 2006 at 11:35 AM | link to this | reply