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Blanche, you did not read correctly...
You are required to speak English if you come into this country legally to live. Not for citizenship but to live. There are many people who come into this country legally to live without becoming citizens. All you have to have is a Visa and a green card to live and work in the U.S.
So, yes, that is a determining factor as to whether someone is legal or not. Unless, of course, the parent who came into the country speaks English but the child doesn't, which I would find extremely rare because almost all of the children in my neighborhood, except the very small children, speak fluent English.
I'm sorry I didn't answer your question sooner but I hadn't really read any of the comments since Tuesday so I didn't know about it.
posted by
whimsystoryteller
on November 23, 2006 at 11:24 PM
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No response yet, Corbin or Whimsy? I kill more comments strings, lol.
posted by
Blanche.
on November 21, 2006 at 7:48 PM
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Whmsy and Corbin, I'm sure it's one requirement to speak the lingua franca
of all countries, including our own, but you're missing (and obfuscating) my (and Professor Peabody's point. BTW, I hope you realize by now that we are a couple, ergo we tend to think somewhat along the same lines and discuss things).
My point, and I did have one, is that English may be a requirement of citizenship of the United States (as well as every other industrialized country in the Western world, Italy, France, Australia, whatever country you care to name), but it is not whether or not someone is speaking English that determines whether someone is a legal US citizen or not.
If someone's native language is Spanish or Swahili and they are among family and friends, don't you think they would be speaking their native language, whether or not they are here LEGALLY or not. You still have not convinced us that you are accurately aware of the number of legal or illegal citizens in your immediate neighborhood. I think you are still making wildly erratic assumptions based on your own emotional conclusions: that all people not speaking English must be illegal aliens, and that those illegal aliens are a drain on the economy.
That is faulty logic, irrational and based on erratic and false premises without any prima facie evidence whatsoever. Now, you want to tell me again, how "irrational" and emotional I'm being and fore you cuse me, take a look at yourselves?
posted by
Blanche.
on November 21, 2006 at 4:22 PM
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France, for one...
Most of the other countries around the world require that you speak either Engllish or their language because English is so universal. I'm pretty sure that you have to learn Italian if you stay there permanently. And, I'm not sure about other countries. There used to be pretty strict laws about it but I haven't done that much research on it as of late. I do know that you can't go into a country like France or Italy where you don't know the language they speak there and expect them to learn your language. Yet that's what is happening with the Latino group in this country.
posted by
whimsystoryteller
on November 21, 2006 at 3:44 PM
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name a country that requires that you speak their native tongue to live the
Sham.....Name a country that has more liberal immigration laws or attitudes toward illegal immigrants than the US.......
Perhaps you might ask the thousands jailed by Mexico when caught crossing Mexico's Southern border with no "equal protection in the law".
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 21, 2006 at 6:50 AM
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i have a problem with them taking the place of US citizens
in our colleges - we are educating foreignors instead of our own because WE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND THEY CAN!!!!!
posted by
ladychardonnay
on November 21, 2006 at 5:58 AM
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I don't let non-English speaking people live here. I think we're being invaded.
posted by
Jenasis
on November 21, 2006 at 5:32 AM
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Interesting discussion, but...
name a country that requires that you speak their native tongue to live there.
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on November 21, 2006 at 3:30 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving, Whimsystoryteller, I thought we were done with this
posted by
Blanche.
on November 21, 2006 at 1:01 AM
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