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Thank you for the read and the comment. Unfortunately the left is being groomed too well in our colleges and not enough at home now. Be blessed.
posted by
Justi
on October 20, 2006 at 9:26 PM
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Very astute comparison!
Future generations always get stuck with the unfinished business of forebears who fail to see the task of defeating evil through to completion. Well done!
posted by
WriterofLight
on October 20, 2006 at 5:18 PM
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Troosh
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your reading me.
posted by
Justi
on October 20, 2006 at 1:47 PM
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A world of uncertainty
but not entirely without hope. Well thought out and well written post!
posted by
Troosha
on October 20, 2006 at 1:28 PM
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Why and Shams
I do thank you both. I appreciate your comments and the honorable manner in which you chose to disagree. I believe if we were not there they would be here. We did not create the terrorists they had been terrorising many over the world before we got there. We gave them a place it looks like-they are not here.
posted by
Justi
on October 20, 2006 at 9:35 AM
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A thoughtful post Shams
The only success we have had in Iraq, is to successfully instigate a civil war. One that will rage for perhaps a hundred years. We have successfully created a breading ground for more terrorism.
We cannot, and will not find peace on the end of a sword. Sooner or later we must move past the insane notion that war will bring peace.
Mr. Bush has opened a pandora's box, and now those who seak peace, must find a way to close it.
posted by
Whysper
on October 20, 2006 at 6:00 AM
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Justi, I must humbly disagree
Our presence in Iraq is creating terrible consequences. For one minute, imagine if our country was "liberated". Do you not see that we have created more terrorists.
My point would be this: war and violence as a strategy for solving human conflicts is dead. We are merely witnerssing its throes of its agony as it drops away from humanity forever.
posted by
Shams-i-Heartsong
on October 20, 2006 at 4:34 AM
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Parnell
Are you unable to speak with civility? You are so rude. You have a right to your opinion you do not have a right to speak to me in such a manner when I have not addressed you. I have tried to be civil and not block you but you can't disagree with me without disrespect, vulgarity, and ignorance about who I am, where I am and what I am saying. This is a world wide community and I hope the rest of the world is not as crass.
posted by
Justi
on October 19, 2006 at 10:09 PM
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Justi
You can sit there in Bumpsville if you like - completely isolated from the realities of the rest of the world. You can eat apple pie and sing your national anthem. you can even choose to sacrifice a personal philosophy for simple-minded 'red, white, and blue' patriotism.
But what you can't do, with any credibility, is claim that you can solve the problems in Iraq with continued occupation. The people there don't want you and so the situation will deteriorate and eventually you will be forced to leave. It will be another cowardly, pathetic, and undignified retreat - but nonetheless you will go. And in the meantime, your presence in Iraq will have massively inflamed anti-Americanism around the world, and more tragically created public sympathy for terrorists.
In the same way that your occupation of Vietnam benefited communists in Indochina, so your occupation of Iraq is benefiting Osama and his mates.
posted by
Antipodean
on October 19, 2006 at 8:54 PM
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We haven't learned from history, but instead are inclined to repeat
our mistakes. Very sad!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on October 19, 2006 at 7:19 PM
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Maggie Mae
Thank you so very much. I appreciate your reading me. I too think our grand children will pay for our ignorance they always have. Be blessed.
posted by
Justi
on October 19, 2006 at 5:45 PM
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Oh, you are so right, Justi. I fear for our grandchildren. I pray God helps our president and our troops and leads both out of the misery of this war. It's so frightening. 
How are you, my friend? Well, I hope. This was such a good post. I hope you get a big audience.
posted by
MaggieMae
on October 19, 2006 at 3:43 PM
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Arial
I hear the young shouting how bad we are. Someone yesterday said to me we were in Iraq committing genocide. I think the families of those solders in the barracks of Lebanon sleeping while they were cowardly bombed; or the families of those who sat at their desks going about their daily work in the Twin Towers when thieves stole airplanes from us and killed our people, destroyed our property consider that genocide. You think? The way some think today is totally beyond me. They think what they want to think and call it truth for all. Thank you so very much for your comment. So much is so different in reality than what it is believed to be.
posted by
Justi
on October 19, 2006 at 3:14 PM
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Justi
Peole have sadly short memories. I guess a lot of kids have never heard of the Korean War. And I think I was lucky, because there was conscription ( the draft ) in Britain, but I failed my medical 'cos I had stomach ulcers. A serious condition in those days.
I might well have wound up in Korea ; maybe under ground. Oh, yes, I remember it well, 'cos I knew men who had been prisoners of the Japs in WWII, who were captured again.
Who were the worst guards in the Jap camps? Why, the Koreans, of course. Ain't life grand?
posted by
ariel70
on October 19, 2006 at 2:48 PM
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