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SuccessWarrior - in a post awhile back I mentioned that Jesus Christ
was the 3,776th saviour.
I was nearly crucified myself for making such a statement but the truth of the matter is that Yeshua, the Christ, is merely the winner of a hard and long fought public relations battle. His followers have prevailed against all contenders. The messiah concept, the blood sacrifice for redemption, virgin birth and ressurection etc etc are all myths that long predated Christ. Christianity, much like the works of Shakespeare, are the condensed and highly edited versions of these myths. Though there have been many efforts to hide and destroy this information throughout history, with much of it lost, Christ's followers were unable to completely hide these facts. Corroboration for multiple messiahs exists even on this continent. Almost all cultures have a version of some sort.
posted by
gomedome
on October 6, 2006 at 3:18 PM
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I look forward...
to reading your book review. That sounds like one I'd like.
posted by
TVBlogger
on October 6, 2006 at 1:52 PM
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Tony, I'm not a greedy Prophet. I only ask for honest comments.
Thank you sir for yours. I am sure you will receive blessings.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on October 6, 2006 at 1:45 PM
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Kid, I have read a webpage with that title and watched a video
showing the similarities of the different saviors. It all points back to one story being spread out over different cultures and those cultures making changes so that it fits their life and geograpy.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on October 6, 2006 at 1:44 PM
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Yes, and..
...even Jesus thought he was re-enacting the roles of Elijah and David. Even Jesus didn't think he was a total original. Paul, with access to a wider range of learning, amy have been the prime mover (!) of the myth in its modern, westernised form, containing non-Jewish elements and grafting them on. He was effectively a salesman who did a damn good job, selling to the Romans a Graeco-Roman (i.e. pagan) set of myths with the eseential Jewish core removed. This is why there is such an apparent lack of connection between the Old and New testaments. One is Jewish culture, the other is Graeco-Roman. Now how much are we supposed to pay you?
posted by
Antonionioni
on October 6, 2006 at 1:18 PM
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You might be interested in a book entitled The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors, which makes the same point your post makes - that there are (well, duh) sixteen crucified saviors out there in a variety of different belief systems.
posted by
kidnykid
on October 6, 2006 at 12:39 PM
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You've always been kind Faholo.
My beliefs as far as god go are still up in the air but I'm fairly certain that the Christian stories are just that. Now that we aren't in little isolated communities but have access to all the histories of every part of the world, we are seeing that the story of Jesus Christ is a rerun.
That doesn't mean that there wasn't a savior. There could have been an original savior. Best records put the first savior story around 10,000 years before Christ. That's the first recorded savior story that we can find. That one could have been retold from something previous. All of the saviors since then appear to be copycat stories.
This knowledge isn't mainstream yet but I believe it's just a matter of time.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on October 6, 2006 at 12:07 PM
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Interesting perspective Successwarrior! If I am wrong in my belief and
you are right in your believe the joke will be on me. However, I am willing to take that risk, I will wait and see. I like the mystery in my belief system and the challenge of believing without knowing. Fear not this Christian as not one who wishes to change your beliefs, but one who gains insight into the belief systems of others by reading by reading and respects their point of view as all Christians ought to. Keep writing,
faholo
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faholo
on October 6, 2006 at 11:00 AM
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