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Gomedome
At no point did I limit the idea of life to just us, here on this planet. Find for me where I put that qualifier in.
This concept is not about what we know, but what I believe. So although we only know about life being here on Earth, I believe there is a good deal more of it out there. For me it only makes sense that the universe would be producing a fair amount of life for whatever function it is that life performs. My guess is some kind of energy transfer that we do not really understand.
We are important because we are part of life, just as any handful of blood cells are important to the functions of our bodies. Sure there are plenty more, but is any one handful more important than another?
In the end this is just what makes sense to me. The Big Bang was the birth of the universe. As it grew it developed the needed elements that keep it 'alive' and life was one such element.
Of course if we go with the limits of us being the only life, then it would be our true job to get the hell off this rock and spread as far as we can to ensure that there is no way for one small nova to destroy all life and make the universe 'sick'.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 10, 2006 at 5:56 PM
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kooka_lives - you are skipping over the qualifiers of this discussion
We only know for certain that life exists on this planet and yes a very small super nova in our galaxie could obliterate that life completely. The fact that it stands to reason life exists elsewhere in the universe is not relevent to your original premise, which clearly implies that you are speaking of us, or life as we know it to exist. So my original question still stands.....how are we necessary to the universe?
posted by
gomedome
on October 9, 2006 at 8:54 PM
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gomedome
Do you believe that there is such a small amount of life in the universe that once nova would destroy it all? Chances are that there is a whole lot of life out there is some form and it would be next to impossible to destroy it all. And this logic would also suggest that as life is destroyed, the universe would create new life as needed Now I will admit that you really cannot do a exact cross over of the human body compared to the universe, but I truly believe that life is a function of the living universe just as our bodies produce the various elements needed to keep us going.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 9, 2006 at 8:19 PM
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kooka_lives - I'm following you on the premise but ....
If we were to lose all of our white blood cells for example, we would expire or cease to exist. If the universe on the other hand, were to lose all of the life that we know to exist to some exploding star or whatever, I cannot believe that the universe would expire. It would simply carry on until the next set of random variables aligned themselves to create life one more time.
posted by
gomedome
on October 9, 2006 at 3:52 PM
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freerain
Didn't our bodies exists in a certain state of being before our needed organs and such formed? It took time for us to developed what was needed after we formed, so why would it be so hard to see that the universe might have gone through the same kind of cycle? it just took a few billions years, since the universe is a little bigger and more complex than we are.
And no I do not do anything that could really be considered worship. I put effort into what is important in life,. but that in itself is not worship. Enjoying time with my boys or finding some quite time to write are not forms of worship, but they are very much aspects of my lei that help me understand what is important. Worship is saying something is greater than you are and deserves to be placed on a pedestal, and I have yet to find anything that should ever be worshipped. Well, aside from me that is. It just does not make sense for me to worship myself.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 3, 2006 at 4:19 PM
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faholo
Why does there need to be something 'greater' than you out there? Why can you not be just as important and great as anything else out there? As far as I am concerned we are all just as great as the universe itself and just as important in the grand scheme of things. No need for God or any kind of gods, since all that would do is make you insignificant.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 3, 2006 at 4:11 PM
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gomedome
Just think of life as being blood cells. All life is part of some kind of function of the universe. What that is I have no idea, just as your blood cells are most likely clueless as to what it is they are really doing. Blood cells are vital to you being alive and functioning, no matter if they know they are or not. lei is vital to the universe, even if life has no clue as to the why of it all.
As our bodies grew the bodies just knew what they needed to create in order to survive, so why would it not make sense that the universe would work in a similar way. When it was being created it just knew that it needed life in order to function correctly and so life was created with any conscious knowledge.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 3, 2006 at 4:09 PM
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That's an interesting
Theory,and I would be more inclined to agree with that than the contradiction of a higher power.
posted by
tawakwan
on October 1, 2006 at 3:51 PM
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kooka_lives - I'm curious about that statement as well
How are we "vital to the existence of the universe"?
posted by
gomedome
on September 30, 2006 at 12:25 PM
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Kooka don't give up thinking and searching, if
there is really is a God, a Higher Power then I pray you will find Him. If I am wrong and there is no God then I trust there is something of interest beyond the here and now. I sure will be disappointed if there is no One greater than me waiting for me in eternity. Keep writing and expressing your beliefs that is how many found their personal god with a Capital G!
faholo
posted by
faholo
on September 30, 2006 at 10:27 AM
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Vital to the Existance of the Universe?
Kooka? Really? Didn't the Universe exist for X number of years Before the evolution of man?
I am certain there is a sacred moment of worship in your daily life that you give all your attention to, without which, you'd find life not worth living.
Religion has stollen the sacred and gave it to God. Likewise, they've stollen the worship of The Sacred and applied it to God.
Just a thought.
Peace.
FR
posted by
freerain
on September 30, 2006 at 7:52 AM
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