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mysteria - I'll pick this subject up again at some future date
For now, I'll let the other blog addressing the same subject run its course.
posted by
gomedome
on September 17, 2006 at 12:01 PM
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MoonSpirit - thank you, that is very kind
I do try to post things that provoke thought and discussion, if some entertainment value is derived from them, then that should be considered a desirable byproduct...thanx again.
posted by
gomedome
on September 17, 2006 at 11:52 AM
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Ah Shucks Gomes...I like reading YOU! I don't wanna read some other
posters post! <mysteria quietly throws tantrum>
posted by
mysteria
on September 17, 2006 at 11:50 AM
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Great post, Gomedome. I have a subtle nuance or twelve that I would like to add, however, it would require a small (or large) treatise. I'll forego that and just let you know by this that I follow your blog (except when I disappear from time to time) and you are always.......hmmmmmm........give me some adjectives here ......... hmmmmmmm......OK........I'll settle for 'enjoyable' (please flesh that word out to a considerable exent, adding any qualifiers that feel good) to read? MoonSpirit 
posted by
syzygy
on September 17, 2006 at 11:21 AM
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I'm seeing that abandoning of fair play on a microcomic level, Gomedome
It seems the rules of fair play are for "other people". My boyfriend works as a commiission salesman. The rules are that no other sales people talk to your customer. A coworker yesterday accused him of attempting to steal other people's customers, which he doesn't, he's scrupulously fair.
Yet, not once, but twice have two sales been taken from him by insidious coworkers, who howl bloody murder about fair play, when it comes to him. Why be nice?
posted by
Blanche.
on September 17, 2006 at 11:10 AM
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Blanche01- the very things that make our societies the most decent places
to live on the planet.
Are the very things being used against us. Racial profiling is inevitably going to be instituted as policy, escalation is unfortunately inevitable as well but if we merely escalate our military efforts, this plays right into their hands. We are being forced to elevate our own insidiousness, we have to become bigger bastards than they could ever dream to be. We also have to abandon some of our principles of decency. Bomb their mosques into dust, we have nothing to lose at this point, it's not like we can possibly enrage or polarize the muslim world any further..
posted by
gomedome
on September 17, 2006 at 11:04 AM
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Gomedome, that is a good point, that someone who has military experience
pointed out to me: that a guerilla war doesn't succeed without the support of the civilian population: they have to fed and hidden. So, add to my earlier comment another thing that annoys me along with the clueless peaceniks are women in burkhas who refuse to remove them to have their drivers' license photos taken in the US. She is wearing the 13th century clothing of a civilization that denies her the right to drive, and yet insists on her right to wear her "costume" when exercising a right in this country that her previous one denied her? Something is wrong with that picture.
Yes, add to the list of annoyances, the howling against racial profling by Middle Easterners, who are not quite vocal in denouncing their own extermist brethren.
posted by
Blanche.
on September 17, 2006 at 10:40 AM
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mysteria - I decided not to continue with this topic
another blogger has picked up this subject and has attempted to post a couple of articles as extensions. I don't know if this was done on purpose to attempt to be annoying, or if it is just a coincedence. In any event there isn't much point in parralelling another post, even if I don't fully agree with all of the things being said in the other post.
posted by
gomedome
on September 17, 2006 at 10:21 AM
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Like one of my favorite bloggers likes to say "The Golden Rule Needs Some
Iron"...GoldenMean. I miss him.
I think that it will take a 9/11 parallel to jolt the John Lennon like "dreamers" back to reality. We really need to get serious about these zealots.
Sure it would be nice to "love love love" everyone, but sheesh, face it world, there are a lot of ASSHOLES out there. Brainless assholes!
Looking forward to reading more of this thread. Thanks Gome.
posted by
mysteria
on September 17, 2006 at 8:38 AM
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Blanche01 - there is one certainty about those who have declared war on us
There is no reasoning with them. They want a world that is entirely one religion; theirs. The dilemma will always be our inability to separate the moderates from the extremists, a task that the moderate muslim must become proactively involved in. Members of the moderate muslim community must isolate the extremists, they have no choice in the matter or they will inevitably be tarred with the same brush.
posted by
gomedome
on September 16, 2006 at 10:27 PM
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Gomedome, I remember the Iran hostage crisis, I was a sophomore in
college. I wish more people remembered it. I also wish there was less generalzing about all Muslims. I'm not saying you are, but that to lump all Muslims of all nationalities into one group and tar them is to play into the extremists hands, imho. Why else would Iraq have become a hotbed of Al Qaeda training groups, when before Hussein at least had no use for Al Qaeda, or they for him, since he was a secularist.
I also have no patience for the peace, love, dove crowd here in the NW who espouse a phony "love the enemy" mantra, and all we need is love. There are people who want to kill us. We have to learn to deal with that.
posted by
Blanche.
on September 16, 2006 at 10:07 PM
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I haven't been at it as long as you but I agree that religion
is extremely dangerous. Most people in religion like to say that "the other religion" is dangerous. There's would never do something like that. Most religions have done atrocities though and the potential always exists for future problems.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 16, 2006 at 3:06 PM
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