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i dont have anything to add to what's been said
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 13, 2006 at 12:34 PM
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SuccessWarrior
He may have. He has so many people to speak for him, ya know...he NEVER has to speak for himself.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on September 12, 2006 at 9:09 PM
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Well if god said it, it must be true.
btw, did He hold a press conference and I missed it?
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 12, 2006 at 9:06 PM
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SuccessWarrior
Hahaha....It must be so, for God hath said it!
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on September 12, 2006 at 8:16 PM
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Sunny, we don't need science, nutrition, and clean water.
We just need to pray harder and become more faithful and all of the world's problems will be solved by god. Anyone who has problems after that is a sinner and should burn in hell.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 12, 2006 at 8:12 PM
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Gome, I have wondered the same thing
I lived in Utah for about 20 years and I think some of the people that stay Mormon do so just because of the pressure they would receive if they didn't stay Mormon.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 12, 2006 at 8:10 PM
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Sunnybeach7 - the real scary part is that people buy this public facade
This man represents an organization that has enough wealth that it could literally cure world hunger yet they remain on a perpetual recruitment drive. Blathering on about fantasy cures for AIDS that involve nothing but abstinence and attempting to blame anyone but themselves for the problems that they are causing in the third world by proliferating superstitious nonsense amongst ignorant peoples.
posted by
gomedome
on September 12, 2006 at 7:07 PM
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gome
What really gets me is the fact that he's saying to just ignore the facts that are right in front of your face and cater to delusion.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on September 12, 2006 at 6:52 PM
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TVBlogger -- my feelings of intense anger left me years ago as well
For the longest time I couldn't get over what a bunch of lying hypocrites religious people where. How they coerced members of their community to all fall into line, or how the most vocal amongst them where quite often the most insidious. I often wonder if the contagious "group think" that is organized religion did not exist, with it's ostracism for those declaring non belief, just how many of those proclaiming belief would still maintain their claims? ...
posted by
gomedome
on September 12, 2006 at 6:42 PM
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Jumping in
Yeah, I remember having a sense of anger and betrayal. I was very hostile towards the church for a few years which is tough when your family is religious and your brother and uncle are pastors. I still have moments of anger but for the most part, I'm now working on healing and losing the anger... accepting that many mean well, but are just misled. It's not easy when you feel you've been lied to and used for someone elses' purposes.
posted by
TVBlogger
on September 12, 2006 at 3:26 PM
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SuccessWarrior -- after a sense of betrayal comes extremely angry
That is the trickiest stage of purging one's thought processes to deal with. Festering hatred is non productive. One cannot act as a counterbalance to the religious crazies of this world if they are imbalanced themselves.
posted by
gomedome
on September 12, 2006 at 2:47 PM
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The questions that come to my mind after reading this is:
How does it feel to know that the church is looking for naive people to sell its message to? Were you one of those naive people that was taken advantage of? How do you feel about that?
My answer...betrayed.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 12, 2006 at 2:26 PM
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SuccessWarrior - that's the crux of it
Meanwhile these people make constant pleas to the rest of the world for everyone to dumb it down. Painting scientific advancement and the knowledge that it fosters as some kind of evil or common enemy. The sad reality is that the message of the catholic church and specifically how it pertains to birth control, is the root of the biggest problems that the third world faces.
posted by
gomedome
on September 12, 2006 at 1:57 PM
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This reminds me of cigarettes
Tobacco use is on the decline in the U.S. because everyone knows how damaging they are to our health and our health care system so tobacco companies are marketing like madmen to third world countries and it's working.
People in the U.S. are getting too smart to fall for religions that oppose what is becoming common knowledge science so they are taking their message to the third world.
It's a panic move to keep a foothold and keep money coming in.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on September 12, 2006 at 1:33 PM
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Sunnybeach7 - it is sad
We are being asked by a lunatic to somehow envy the third world where the influence of his institution is doing irreparable harm.
posted by
gomedome
on September 12, 2006 at 12:42 PM
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gome
Just one word.....sad.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on September 12, 2006 at 12:34 PM
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