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Offbeats--
I agree with you about small town mentalities, but think it's also the "legend" aspect that keeps this news alive.

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 12:06 PM | link to this | reply

thanks Fourcats!

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 12:05 PM | link to this | reply

Talion--
it is ridiculous, but it's like a local legend....and legends never die!!

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 12:04 PM | link to this | reply

avant--
yes absolutely, that sort of goes along with what I wrote in my previous post. One thing must occur for the other to follow. thanks for commenting!

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 12:03 PM | link to this | reply

Julia
Sometimes, it takes a tarnishing to give inspiration to correct it. I remember a friend of mine who was involved in a wreck of two ambulances. The reports were doctored and their names were mud for a year. He resolved himself to change how he was viewing himself, and poured everything he had into winning a paramedic competition. He did win.

A psychic told him before all of this occurred that 'something bad' was going to happen to him; but, the 'bad' was necessary for the 'good' to take place. I think he would have never had such determination and resolve, were it not to have happened.

posted by avant-garde on September 13, 2006 at 11:32 AM | link to this | reply

Julia.

It's ridiculous this would be such a hot topic after 30 years. One thing is for certain. Memories fade. It may take longer in a small town, but no doubt, they do. Your nephews are examples of it.

posted by Talion on September 13, 2006 at 10:01 AM | link to this | reply

Anna--
thanks for a beautiful comment!

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 9:39 AM | link to this | reply

strat--
very good points, sometimes life seems made up of these inexplicable moments. It is going to be okay!! thanks.

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 9:38 AM | link to this | reply

lion--
I agree, some people do think it uplifts them to put others down. In reality it is just the opposite!

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 9:36 AM | link to this | reply

Dotty Dave--
um...what??? I think that whooshing sound is your comment going right over my head...perhaps more coffee is in order??

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 9:35 AM | link to this | reply

bhaskar--
it's certainly possible that it is more in my mind than in other people's minds here...

posted by Julia. on September 13, 2006 at 9:34 AM | link to this | reply

drivers! start your engines! - glad you're discovering new identities for
a troublesome image.

posted by fourcats on September 13, 2006 at 9:10 AM | link to this | reply

Julia
That is wonderful news. People in small towns have small town mentalitys and your nephews sound like they have risen above that!!

posted by Offy on September 13, 2006 at 8:59 AM | link to this | reply

People can be so cruel. Noone is perfect. We all made mistakes. Your brother made a mistake. He's not going to make it again and people should let the past be the past. You're a beautiful person and when true love comes along it will NEVER discriminate.

posted by SincerityAnna on September 13, 2006 at 8:57 AM | link to this | reply

You're right, the ignoramuses of the world will occasionally throw a brick.
But it sounds like the old adage about time and old wounds is working yet again. Sure, someone will bring it up just to be an assaht, but most people probably realize that no one sets out to become the sibling of a murderer, nor did the parents set out to raise one. It just something, essentially inexplicable, that happened.

It's easy for someone like me to say, "Don't sweat it," but I'm not you, and can't imnagine that situation. Nonetheless, it sounds like things are pretty okay. Hope so, anyway!

posted by strat on September 13, 2006 at 7:32 AM | link to this | reply

People will always find something in bringing you down if they can, for some reason it seems to make their own lifes feel better, mostly because their insecure in themselfs I've found. Mike

posted by lionladroar on September 13, 2006 at 7:05 AM | link to this | reply

Julia, the answer is your very search for the answer, I'd say.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on September 13, 2006 at 2:20 AM | link to this | reply

Julia
Names do stick, but perhaps we give it too much of a bother at times. Probably it is not even in their minds, but we are sometimes upset about being revealed, our identitities disclosed,  that we suffer.

posted by Bhaskar.ing on September 13, 2006 at 1:27 AM | link to this | reply

Whacky--
It is nice, and great to be able to see them enjoy their success.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 10:33 PM | link to this | reply

cee--
it's really to be expected in a town of this size, that some events will never be forgotten.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 10:31 PM | link to this | reply

thanks Katray, nice to see you here!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 10:29 PM | link to this | reply

A of A-and-B--
glamorous career? LOL--no, it's an expensive and time-consuming hobby, but they do enjoy it!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 10:29 PM | link to this | reply

shelly, yes I think they are. thanks for reading.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 10:28 PM | link to this | reply

That's great they are bringing honor back to the family name!


posted by Whacky on September 12, 2006 at 8:18 PM | link to this | reply

Julia.
That was a very good post and heartening to hear that your nephews are forging ahead with new reputations for the old family name.  Small towns and small minds go together.
Cee

posted by LadyCeeMarie on September 12, 2006 at 7:03 PM | link to this | reply

Very uplifting and touching post Julia

posted by Katray2 on September 12, 2006 at 6:53 PM | link to this | reply

I'm happy to read about the glamorous careers of your nephews. I think the present or younger generations will not know so much about the past to recall associations from a particular surname.

(A)

posted by A-and-B on September 12, 2006 at 6:50 PM | link to this | reply

It looks like your nephews are doing well! 

posted by shelly_b on September 12, 2006 at 5:42 PM | link to this | reply

OMG, now I get it, Julia, me and my dyslexic fingers, lol

posted by Blanche. on September 12, 2006 at 5:02 PM | link to this | reply

blanche--
I was only laughing because of the typo. Well, that and, I have been back for quite a while, LOL.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 5:01 PM | link to this | reply

sunny--
I know that it has affected them in the past, when they were in high school. One day I hope to sit down with them and discuss it, if they are willing.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:59 PM | link to this | reply

Julia, was that the wrong word? You've been away for a while.

posted by Blanche. on September 12, 2006 at 4:59 PM | link to this | reply

blanche--"cemeback"??
LOL. Thank you!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:58 PM | link to this | reply

thanks frankenkitty--
like I said, the world is full of ignoramuses, and that woman is proof!!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:57 PM | link to this | reply

YPunday--thanks!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:56 PM | link to this | reply

rumored--
I wouldn't say it is fast fading, it's been 30 years and hasn't faded away yet, but that it can now be associated with good, is nice.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:55 PM | link to this | reply

I imagine that would be hard to live with, day to day.
  
At least it doesn't seem to be affecting your nephews.

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on September 12, 2006 at 4:47 PM | link to this | reply

Julia, Congratulations on a spectacular cemeback
Your blog is proof that quality can trump fluff. 

posted by Blanche. on September 12, 2006 at 4:45 PM | link to this | reply

Julia., I know what you mean.
That's wonderful for your nephews.  Some people always have something to say about everyone.  One of my neighbors doesn't like me because my husband's ex-girlfriend  fooled around with her husband. So, she doesn't like me, like I was there cheering them on or something.  I didn't know my husband, my neighbor, or my husband's ex when it happened. It was like 15 years ago, get over it! I guess she assumes my husband attracts lecherous women or something, but that's so unfair and irrational.  Anyway, I'm happy for your nephews  

posted by Flumpystalls3000 on September 12, 2006 at 4:43 PM | link to this | reply

America gives that still- 2nd chances.To remake oneself--Th Paine, Franklin

--even the former slaves and slaveowners & their descendants. Shalom--- YOU ARE SWEET & GOOD. Jesus not only told me, He showed me.

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on September 12, 2006 at 4:37 PM | link to this | reply

Thank you Alf!!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 4:05 PM | link to this | reply

Julia, people are associating you nephews name with victory, and if
there is any thought at all to the past, its fast fading...congrats to your nephews, by the way......

posted by Rumor on September 12, 2006 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

That is a happy thing...
I'm glad for you, and your family.

posted by A_Norseman on September 12, 2006 at 2:01 PM | link to this | reply

Tanga--
I'm not sure time heals the wounds, I think we just settle into the pain, and it lessens the severity

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 1:43 PM | link to this | reply

Dotty Dave--
yes, often I wonder if I haven't built it up in my head, so that it is bigger than it actually is. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I will probably find it sooner or later.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 1:41 PM | link to this | reply

cosy--
thanks, I appreciate your comment, and YOU!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 1:40 PM | link to this | reply

Wow! What a story!
Time seems to heal all wounds, but we will always get those blinded people amongst us. Like I heard on BBC world radio today about Australians killing stingrays after Steve Irwins death. I am sure that is not what he wanted!! But ignoramuses wander around all the time!

posted by Tanga on September 12, 2006 at 1:39 PM | link to this | reply

Julia, yes it is what it is. But perhaps with you going back there, it's

more what it is for you more than it is for others now. So it's still going to hurt, but perhaps as you begin to recognize that it's not as prevalent elsewhere in the community, the hurt will lessen. I don't believe such things ever leave a person completely, but with your return maybe your fears of what might be are now being confounded by what actually is.

I hope that all makes sense.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on September 12, 2006 at 1:27 PM | link to this | reply

Julia
curiosity kills the cat...but if any one was to judge me for the mistakes I've committed in my past...then where would I be??? Julia I'm very happy to see your family's successes...and that's all that matters.  and by the way, you are few and far in-between, thank you for caring from the bottom of my heart. The majority just shy away from pages like this...thank you for not shying away and for being honest. Many Hugs  and don't worry, I am also at loss of words...

posted by cosy on September 12, 2006 at 12:17 PM | link to this | reply

lady--
I don't mind your curiosity, that is quite natural. I wouldn't be writing about it publicly if I weren't ready to deal with curiosity. thanks for your visit.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 11:47 AM | link to this | reply

cringe--
"small communities never forget"--this is so true. Had this happened to our family in a large city, the experience would be totally different.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 11:45 AM | link to this | reply

troosha--
yes it really is a wonderful and welcome change.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 11:44 AM | link to this | reply

blanche--
Though it is somewhat uncomfortable, I do think that coming back here to live was a necessary next step in dealing with this.

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 11:43 AM | link to this | reply

i have to admit
now you have my curiousity flowing - but i will never ask.  be proud of who you and your family are.  i have two sisters by the same parents are there are no similarities.  people are just idiots and that is why i have no friends

posted by ladychardonnay on September 12, 2006 at 10:57 AM | link to this | reply

Indirect redemption, and don't worry about it too much, I know
about the whole guilt by association thing, you can't help having inhabited the same womb, what you can is who you are.

Murder, it's sad that it came to defining your family name for a bit because of your brother, small communities never forget. 

Luckily that hasn't occurred in our extended family, but practically everything else has.  So I'm often reluctant to explain who I am at family get togethers such as weddings or funerals, my mother's side are labelled quite unbalanced, and regrettably they continue to be.

posted by Cringe on September 12, 2006 at 10:33 AM | link to this | reply

It would seem that your nephews are dispelling the negative legacy and creating a new one.  How wonderful that the name can now be said (and heard) in celebration!

posted by Troosha on September 12, 2006 at 10:14 AM | link to this | reply

Julia,

I've been very self-conscious about things that have happened in the past, assuming that was the first thing that anyone who knew me would think about.  But even though some have long memories, others don't and some are more sophisticated in their worldview than others, allowing for shades of grey. 

I like Viktor Frankl's book "Man's Search For Meaning" where he not only was a Nazi concentration camp survivor, but he became a psychiatrist and counseled other survivors.  His view was that meaning was found in doing the one thing that life required of his patient, the one thing they survived all that for. 

I can only paraphrase, but it's something like "It doesn't matter what you expect from life, it's what life expects from you that matters".  Maybe going back and dealing with this is that one thing.  Who knows.

posted by Blanche. on September 12, 2006 at 10:13 AM | link to this | reply

Dave--
it's just nice to have something positive associated with our name for once...it's still disconcerting for me to hear them announce it over and over (because I've always tried to hide it), and I wonder if I am the only one who feels this way. But it is what it is, right?

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 9:53 AM | link to this | reply

Ariala and Afzal--
thank you for stopping by this morning!!

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 9:51 AM | link to this | reply

Artifact--
thanks for your kind and complimentary words. I am very proud of them, and working on finding that for myself...

posted by Julia. on September 12, 2006 at 9:49 AM | link to this | reply

Time is healing, Julia. Your nephews are fading in over the fade-out.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on September 12, 2006 at 9:39 AM | link to this | reply

nice post .

posted by afzal50 on September 12, 2006 at 9:30 AM | link to this | reply

posted by Ariala on September 12, 2006 at 9:25 AM | link to this | reply

How wonderful about their success, Julia!
If they are anything like you, you have a right to be proud of them!  I admire all that you have overcome.

posted by Artifact on September 12, 2006 at 9:22 AM | link to this | reply