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Gome
if its worth anything, I don't think you are filled with hate at all. I just believe you have very strong clearly defined opinions. But the misconceptions do seem to help your ratings it seems. Its funny how those who accuse another person of a charectar flaw just keep on coming back with clicks.
posted by
calmcantey75
on August 14, 2006 at 5:14 PM
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Gomedome, it's hard to admit to having any sort of prejudice, but
my limited (read one course in college a long time ago) skills in logic and rhetoric taught me a few things that kind of rocked my world: one that logic, specifically syllogisms, start with a premise, an a priori assumption.
That assumption can be "the moon is made of green cheese" and then the argument is made from there. Anyone can be wacky as a fruit bat and still argue cogently and in an internally consistent way, that proves their "thesis", but the thesis itself stands alone. I don't engage in religious debates over the existence of God, because my a priori assumption that "God exists" is fundamentally opposed to yours: "God does not exist". We're at an impasse and we can sit here all day and all ngiht, and get frustrated and fed up and start mudslinging and not arrive at a different conclusion.
I agree, I did say something to that effect the other night, that Christians who start mudfests, and rant and foam at the mouth, are not really models of decorum or adding anything Christ-like to the mix. I believe the word that comes up is "ugliness". I personally am not in favor or "ugliness" either and I'd like to see it wiped out.
posted by
Blanche.
on August 14, 2006 at 2:16 PM
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TVBlogger - exactly, but unfortunately we both know that is years away
There still seems to be this hangover from another time clouding our perceptions of the rights of others to believe whatever works for them. The words "freedom of religious expression" really means for some: "you have the right to believe whatever you want to believe as long as I agree with it"
posted by
gomedome
on August 14, 2006 at 11:42 AM
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I find it interesting
that if you hear an interview with a Christian they will say they feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the love of God in their life... they must feel so lost and empty. And then you hear an interview with a nonbeliever and they will say they feel sorry for anyone who needs God in their life... they must feel so lost and dependent. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just find what works for us, let the lives we live be the witness for whether that way works or not, and quit worrying about and pitying those who think differently?
posted by
TVBlogger
on August 14, 2006 at 11:13 AM
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SuccessWarrior - isn't that the truth
Taught to hate in both a direct and subtle manner. As for the religious crazies and their level of conviction, I absolutely agree. Our homegrown crazies are much the same type of irrational individuals with only their backgrounds in a democratic, reasonably law abiding society separating them from the crazies that come from other parts of the world. We can only hope that this difference remains as it is.
posted by
gomedome
on August 14, 2006 at 9:18 AM
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Talion -- that's how they spread "love"
I'm with you on this, it seems never ending. Some persons that we have seen come to this site have even become proactive in not only proliferating this unfounded stereotype, but in harrassing those who profess non belief. .....and they do so from a position as if it is their right to act this way.
posted by
gomedome
on August 14, 2006 at 9:13 AM
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Many people in religion are taught NOT to tolerate people with
different beliefs. This can range in scale from rudeness as seen here all the way up to ramming airplanes into buildings. The people who are at the rude end of the scale say they aren't like the killers but it's the same intolerance, just with less conviction.
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on August 14, 2006 at 8:30 AM
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gomedome
If I had a dime for each time I heard the non-believer refered to as the foul, uncouth, hopeless, lost, misguided, pitiful, minion of Satan, the source of evil, and blame for all that's wrong with the world, Donald Trump would have to move aside for the new mover and shaker. If I also had a nickel for every head that bobs with acceptance of this ridiculous notion, I'd make Bill Gates look like a pauper. As you state, it's human nature. In order to be right, somebody else must be wrong. It's as simple as that.
posted by
Talion
on August 14, 2006 at 8:20 AM
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