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Black Pearl
You are right. Two things most of us must do: Pray and yes listen a lot. I do not think it will get better. No because I am afraid, but because it is following exactly as Scripture does all through the Bible.
posted by
Justi
on August 1, 2006 at 6:49 PM
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RI
We are finding out that the man was mentally ill; howevdr, what did he remember? He remembers, knows how to hate Israel, strange.
posted by
Justi
on August 1, 2006 at 6:48 PM
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Hi, Justi,
Lots of thought-provoking questions, here; and some spirited, compelling commentary. I have no answers, just many questions of my own. I pray quite a bit. I'm saddened and frightened by the escalating violence in the world, with seemingly no end in sight. I do know that communication is the first step; real communication: talking, listening, and a genuine pause given to the attempt at understanding; a pause without impulsive action. I think many of us lack empathy, and we rarely demonstrate any willingness to empathize. So much anger and mistrust clouds everything. Just my thoughts. Thanks. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on August 1, 2006 at 5:45 PM
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Justi..better late than never I hope...
what happened in Seattle on Friday speaks for itself..he may not have had a bomb strapped to his back, but completely innocent people were killed and injured because he "hates Israel"..hate never gave anyone the right to take lives...
posted by
Rumor
on July 30, 2006 at 7:05 AM
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Justi
Hello and thank you for your kind wishes for my health, they were greatly appreciated. Regarding your questions ~ I certainly understand the fear that we as Americans have of Muslim terrorists and their strong beliefs.but in my opinion we can't group all Muslims together as evil or treacherous people. I'm sure their are some who live under fear and remain silent because they fear for their lives as well as the lives of their family and friends. Many have been taught since birth to hate. I pray that God will find a way to open the hearts of terrorists and to let us live in this world in harmony. I don't see this happening in my lifetime but it doesn't hurt to storm the gates of heaven with prayer and hope for a better and kinder world where mankind can join together and live in peace with all peoples and be tolerant of our differences. That being said ~ I do not walk around with rose colored glasses and try to keep aware of my surroundings and leery of anyone who expresses that they are the only one with knowledge and express this thought with extreme voices. 
posted by
BrightIrish
on July 29, 2006 at 4:42 PM
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Avant Garde
If you hear of any Christians digging tunnels so as to be able to come up into you home so they can fight and leave their weapons in your home so they can scare others into leaving them alone. You let me know. Also let me know if you see any of them strapping bombs and/or teaching war to six and seven year old boys. I do not understand that you don't see this differently. If Muslim law comes to your home you will not be the least concerned with those you worry about now.
posted by
Justi
on July 29, 2006 at 9:45 AM
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Ms Bradrock
Thank you so much for your comment.
posted by
Justi
on July 29, 2006 at 9:41 AM
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Justi
I think that there are bad apples in every bunch. Unfortunately, the bad apples in the Muslim 'faith' have power and are in the spotlight.
In America, there are many so called 'Christians' who hate every bit as much, and justify it with The Bible.
I also think that there are organizations here that are gaining in strength, who are intent on destroying our government. To me, they are a much bigger threat.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 29, 2006 at 3:04 AM
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Justi,
Your questions are good ones, and as you know people's responses are often based more on emotion than on truth. As you know, I am an expatriate American living in the Middle East. My experiences while living in Muslim countries have not been bad ones, but I can assure you that I do not walk around with blinders on. They are a dangerous group of people. Take it from one who knows...there is no place like home...the good ole U.S.A. Blessings!
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ms_bradrock
on July 29, 2006 at 2:14 AM
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Azur
I do appreciate your words, perhaps I can learn from you. Tell me why Lebanon has accepted Hezbollah to simply come in and take over their government, land and when they have help to get rid of them, (The whole world knows they are terrorists) they refuse it. Yet when Syria had their president killed the world community came to the rescue of the Lebanon.
Where else in the world are there not laws against murdering children. The radicals mix in the homes with the populace including children and use them as shields. Why does the world not stand with Israel to get rid of Hezbollah? It will kill some of the children. But who is putting them in the front of the Muslim terrorists? In short I would not cover for my own family if they were involved in such. I would die first. It is blatant. People who cut people's heads off. Where else in the world do people use such barbaric punishment for normalcy? Is there anywhere else where people are still hanged for crime?
Saudi Arabia, Jordan nor Egypt have not come out against the Hezbollah. If they would come out against the radicals it would stop. Everybody knows that Iran and Syria furnish funding and weapons to the radicals, why do the other Middle Eastern Countries not come out against them? If it is not because of religion what is it?
I am not trying to be hateful, ugly or mean spirited toward anyone. I do not want my country to be run by the rules of the Muslim religion. It is a bloody set of laws. I know women who married Muslim men one had had her children kidnapped and taken back to Iran and knows she will never see them again. There are bad people in all cultures, the difference I see is that there are laws against the bad in other countries and they are enforced. I don't see that in Muslim countries. They have laws against theft, or adultry but it is only the word of the man. It is not anything civilized.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 11:55 PM
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Justi
You and millions of others live your lives in your street in your town, and millions of muslims live their lives in their street in their towns. What exactly are they or you proposing to do to stop anything? How should they proceed with this battle that you urge them on? You regard ordinary people as supporting the extremists if they do not try to stop them. How should ordinary people find the extremists? It is easy to say what others should do but extremists and terrorists do not communicate their plans with the general community. They don't do so because they know that they they don't have the support of the general community.
Who does it help if everyone on on the planet is engaged in war particularly if they do not really know how they are fighting? That approach teaches everyone war. Aren't there enough people fighting already?
posted by
Azur
on July 28, 2006 at 10:38 PM
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Jane's
It is totally wild. First place the crusades were not the Christians that they are mad at in the first place. The world is mad at protestant denominations and charismatics. People all over the world call the Catholic Church the Church. It is not 'The Church'.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 8:40 PM
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Justi, the wrongs Christians have done from centuries ago
(i.e. in particular the Crusades) are still held against us. But the current evils committed by thousands of Muslims are done in the name of freedom fighting -- and are deemed OK by many of the world's communities. Odd how this works, eh?
Most of the world seems to be against Israel in its attack against Hezbollah, in spite of the fact that Hezbollah started the whole damned thing. But NO -- it's the Israelis, the victims, who are now accused of being aggressors.
Makes so much sense, don't you think?
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 28, 2006 at 7:06 PM
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AZUR
If a man stoned his wife and claimed to be a Christian I would stand against him. I would not stand for any Christian to strap bombs around their children I would take the chance of death myself, I believe those Muslims who do not believe in the extreme violence could do something about it; if they don't they are a part of it.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 5:42 PM
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Azur
I believe that what I have seen is that those who are not extremist in the Muslim world do not stand against those who are. That is the scary part. I did not see the President of Lebanon demeaning the Hezbolah, why because he is afraid. Then if the non extremists are afraid it leaves the extremists in control. Those in control are free to do then as they choose are they not.
You do not see Christians declaring war on the Phillipins, instead the Muslims kidnaped a couple and shot the husband who were Christian missionaries.
You do not see the Christians declaring war in Africa, no the Muslims are selling them as sex and labor slaves.
It is not that all muslems are violent it is that the non violent have no control. They have taken over Belguim, Holland and France as far as the governments having any real control.
I don't like that.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 5:37 PM
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.. AND the coffee.....
posted by
Azur
on July 28, 2006 at 5:08 PM
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Justi I find the contrast so great between
these kinds of posts about coffee posts with your mother which contain something wonderful. I think people disagree with you because we don't define a huge swathe of humanity on the actions of the extremists. That would be like saying that all Christians live in one culture and all must be judged by the deeds of violent extremists. Sadly, all cultures have violent extremists who must be dealt with but the majority are not. If they were the world would have been long since destroyed.
posted by
Azur
on July 28, 2006 at 5:07 PM
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Offbeats
Isn't it amazing that you never know who will be next and so many people are alright with that? There is no respect or honor in their gangs. These are just gangs with the most sophisticated weaponery.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 12:47 PM
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Wiley
Yes I answered but I also wanted to thank you for always being encouraging. You are a special man.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 12:45 PM
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Wiley
I did know it was the Canadians that arranged that. I also know about them trying to do their dirty work there just a few months ago, threatening to cut off the head of the Prime Minister. They are not what I want as neighbors.
posted by
Justi
on July 28, 2006 at 12:44 PM
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Justi
I can remember taking a trip to Africa some years back. Upon returning we left out of Nairobi and arrived home a day later. I turned on my TV and to my horror the same flight I had taken the day before had been blown out of the sky over Lockerby. I will never forget that horror. It was Christmas time, many students on board returning home for the holiday. A year later I moved to GB for a brief while. I went to Lockerby and saw the memorial they had built to the victims and family of the deceased loved ones.
I never understood how much people can hate for the sake of it, or in the name of religion, or how they can possibly think God would endorse such behavior. We must never forget we are so blessed to live and let live in this great country of ours..
Good post. well said dear lady!
posted by
Offy
on July 28, 2006 at 10:20 AM
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Justi
How can one be fair to a culture that considers us infidels and worse? To heck with the criticisms, keep on truckin' luv. Oh,
"Do you know any other culture that will kidnap the total American Embassy and keep these people for months. Iranian Muslims did this?"
You do know Canadians got 'em out right luv?
posted by
WileyJohn
on July 28, 2006 at 9:39 AM
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