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Blanche
The church in question was rather large, with an attendance of over 500. There were few blacks there, and I was friends with one of them. In a way, it made me an outcast with the popular ones. I didn't care one bit. I guess in a way, you and I are the same.
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avant-garde
on July 21, 2006 at 3:59 AM
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Blanche
Wow, I see. My mom is still a fervent believer. Every now and then, she'll try to scare me into returning, which I adamantly refuse. She fears that my whole family is going to hell in a handbasket. It's really frustrating that my own mother cannot tell me what I good job I'm doing with my own kids, or that she is proud of me. All I hear are her fears projected onto me.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 21, 2006 at 3:58 AM
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It's true, Avant, kids learn what they see and hear, there is no other way
and they can smell b.s. and hypocrisy a mile away, just as you did with your minister. BTW, when I said I stayed at the Church of Christ for the music, I did mean the a capella gospel. At first, I thought it was a waste of time, but it brought a sense of cohesiveness to the whole church that was sort of magical, imho.
I did eventually leave for various reasons, mainly the race issue got to be too much for me. I was practically the only white person in the church, the rest were black. It was awkward.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 21, 2006 at 3:31 AM
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Whacky
Thanks!
posted by
avant-garde
on July 21, 2006 at 3:18 AM
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Dave
Thank you very much. I'm not one much for ritual or outward display.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 21, 2006 at 3:18 AM
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Rumored
Thanks. I think back to the people I admired most when I was a kid. That's who I'd like to emulate now.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 21, 2006 at 3:17 AM
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No truer words were ever spoken r written!
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Whacky
on July 20, 2006 at 6:37 PM
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Level-headed. Straightforward. You are are spiritual without being
religiously didactic. This is a universal philosophical standpoint which strikes home with me. 
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on July 20, 2006 at 6:14 PM
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avant-...a good example is never forgotten...it's worth a thousand words...
or actions..
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posted by
Rumor
on July 20, 2006 at 5:12 PM
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Moon
It seems to me that I treat most people decently. It's at the times when I feel taken advantage of that I lash out and become defensive. I, too, have scars.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 3:52 PM
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Avant, So very true. Excellent post. While children seem to reflect our selves back to our self almost instantly, it seems that people and the universe at large does the same thing. When I treat people well, I am treated well. When I treat people shabbily, well.......I'm making greater effort to treat people well. Moon_Spirit 
posted by
syzygy
on July 20, 2006 at 3:41 PM
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Fionajean
Yes, it's much harder but a sure way.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 1:10 PM
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Passionflower
Ain't that the truth!
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 1:09 PM
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TAPS
Seeing it is one thing, I think. Changing it is where it gets tough. I'm doing okay, though. Thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 1:09 PM
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Hi
leading by example is the best way.
posted by
fionajean
on July 20, 2006 at 1:08 PM
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I always tell everyone to do what I say, not what I do...LOL!
Of course that never works.
posted by
Passionflower
on July 20, 2006 at 1:06 PM
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avant-garde, It is so great to find a parent who is aware of this while their children are still young, and becoming.... So many parents do not learn this until it is much too late and they have only regrets.
posted by
TAPS.
on July 20, 2006 at 1:04 PM
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Mason
Thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 12:49 PM
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Justi
It's a lot harder to monitor oneself, but it does give you exactly what you want to receive. Strange how life is. Thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 12:49 PM
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Isa
It's hot as hell here, too. I've never done well in the heat. I sweat like crazy. My brother says I have a 'very efficient cooling system.'
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 12:47 PM
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malcolm
A teacher is a noble profession. I hope that they will be recognized and better compensated in the future. It's good to see you again.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 12:46 PM
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..well said! ..Bravo!
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MasonGarrett
on July 20, 2006 at 11:22 AM
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AG
This is an awesome post. The best I have read today, maybe in a long time. This attitude and form of behavior will have a long time effect on many people. Not just on your children but all those they come in contact with. It is great. You are a special father.
posted by
Justi
on July 20, 2006 at 11:01 AM
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avant garde...
the heat is killing me lol...hope all is well with you:)
posted by
Marshallengraved
on July 20, 2006 at 10:27 AM
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So true
Claire likes to 'teach' imaginary schoolchildren in the room next door. I've never known such naughty children and we've always assumed she is aping a teacher at school. I hope so.
I've really missed your posts and it's nice to be back.
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malcolm
on July 20, 2006 at 9:27 AM
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Wiley
It is so much harder to be self-possessed and work through things rationally. Anger gets such an immediate response, but it also is very destructive. This is, I think, my biggest lesson of all.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:26 AM
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avant-garde
Well I guess I wasn't your kind of parent, I was more tough love and discipliarian I suppose.
But they are all out there and very successfully raising scads of their own kids.
For me parenting is like any kind of leadership, and one cannot expect to be adored for doing the job.
Now that doesn't make me right of course, no, no, no. Somehow I just feel blessed for having sobered up when they were just babies and doing any kind of job at all as a parent.
I'm sure you'll have very happy well adjusted offspring my friend.
posted by
WileyJohn
on July 20, 2006 at 8:22 AM
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sannhet
Thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:11 AM
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bel
I probably should listen more. It would help me a great deal, I'm sure.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:10 AM
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YPunday
I'm saddened at the events currently taking place, but I'm also hopeful that the heart of man hasn't been completely stamped out.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:10 AM
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Rcky
Parenting is meticulous business. I mean you have to be awake all the time, cognizant of the influences going on. I try to set the example by respecting people, using manners, etc. Sometimes, I lose my temper and yell. But, people are always coming up to us and telling us how good our kids are. That's encouraging.
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avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:09 AM
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Rcky
I hardly know a thing about it, other than what I've read of Sylvia Browne. She speaks of a time around 2050 when all wars will end and humans will live in relative peace. What disturbs me, however, is that she doesn't see anything beyond 2100. What are your thoughts about that?
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:08 AM
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Tanga
It is the hardest and most humbling thing I've ever done.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 20, 2006 at 8:06 AM
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Avant -
Well said, my friend. Well said.
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sannhet
on July 20, 2006 at 6:57 AM
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Avant
The fact that you pay attention and learn from your children speak volumes.
posted by
bel_1965
on July 20, 2006 at 5:52 AM
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Avant, Carobin-Dalls otta read this. We demand others be nonviolent but
simply preach and have no idea what ML KING and Gandhi taught. These evildoers shout "nonviolence" only because they have sinned and want forgiveness from their victims. But we do need to set the example otherwise the world will follow our example. We can't stop our victims from gaining more weapons; US, the west and Israel will not always keep their monopoly of the weapons of death. Charity begins at home...I agree. Thanks so much
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on July 20, 2006 at 5:27 AM
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You are absoultely right Avant.....
kids are sponges, they pick up on everything. They pick up stuff from us that we are not aware of. My son grew up to be a great lover of animals and full of compassion just from observing me during his young life..... You're a good father and I am sure your boys will grow up just like you and your wife.
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 20, 2006 at 5:27 AM
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Hi Avant.....
This is my reply to you on my Ascension post and I thought I'd post it here to make sure you read this. I'm pleased you found my post informative. This is what I had been teaching for the past few years. I had to "dumb it down" for the mainstream to understand it better, however, I have lots more info. on this that you may be interested in. Let me know and I can email you some stuff and give you some websites. This is happening. I have been asked to be on a radio talk show (Coast to Coast/Art Bell) to discuss this. He has fourteen million viewers so my friends tell me I have to do it so I can assist in awakening more souls to this event. I'll let you know when I will be on and what station. Now as far as your move...that is SUPER GREAT that your numbers equal 11, a master number. That has major significance that I am sure you're aware of. And for the spirit.....welcome to the club! The veil is thinning. I have been seeing spirits for years now, like I said before I have many stories to tell, but I don't know if I will share it with our community yet, still thinking that over. What have you read on the Ascension?
Now I'll come back and read this post! 
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RckyMtnActivist
on July 20, 2006 at 5:18 AM
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Parenting
must be one of the hardest hurdles and adult must cross. I agree with you 100% and a parents aim is to mould the child as you deem fit and if you do not set the example to follow what example has the child left to follow?
posted by
Tanga
on July 20, 2006 at 5:14 AM
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