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“There are moments in the life of a nation, when it is compelled to look directly into the face of reality and say: no more!” -Israel’s Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
Frankly, I feel that time is now...........................
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 20, 2006 at 6:12 AM
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Who's doing the slaying in Iraq?
The inquisitors.......
Frankly, I am happy that pacifists are in the extreme minority.....
I hope you are not now throwing around the Nazi label....that getting old and tends to fire me up a bit.....
Kumbaya.....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 20, 2006 at 6:08 AM
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Corbin_dallsas WHY NOT FACE THE hypocrisy of NOT hunting Osama bin Laden
I cannot understand why 3,000 people killed and well-insured here are worth the thousdans of innocents beuing slain in Iraq. Only bad people are being killed in Iraq and Middle East. You are talking like Osama bin Laden. That's the truth--there's a Hitler and Saddam Hussein within us more so now those those and Hitler have been sidelined. Shame
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on July 20, 2006 at 5:46 AM
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I just got an interesting read from Raymond S. Kraft.......I may focus on the entire work in a future post...but Krafts hits the nail right onthe head:
There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East — for the most part not a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its Inquisition and its Reformation, but it is not known yet which will win — the Inquisitors, or the Reformationists.
We have to help the Reformation win, and to do that we have to fight the Inquisition, i.e., the Wahhabi movement, the Jihad, Al Qaeda and the Islamic terrorist movements. We have to do it somewhere. And we can’t do it everywhere at once. We have created a focal point for the battle at a time and place of our choosing……..in Iraq.
Not in New York, not in London, or Paris or Berlin, but in Iraq, where weare doing two important things.
(1) We deposed Saddam Hussein. Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11 or not, it is undisputed that Saddam has been actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades. Saddam is a terrorist.
Saddam is, or was, a weapon of mass destruction, who is responsible for the deaths of probably more than a million Iraqis and two million Iranians.
(2) We created a battle, a confrontation, a flash point, with Islamic terrorism in Iraq. We have focused the battle. We are killing bad people, and the ones we get there we won’t have to get here. We also have a good shot at creating a democratic, peaceful Iraq, which will be a catalyst for
democratic change in the rest of the Middle East, and an outpost for a stabilizing American military presence in the Middle East for as long as it is needed.
Americans have a short attention span, conditioned by 30 second sound bites, 60 minute TV shows, and 2 hour movies in which everything comes out okay.
The real world is not like that. It is messy, uncertain, and sometimes bloody and ugly. Always has been, and probably always will be.
The bottom line is that we will have to deal with Islamic terrorism until we defeat it, whenever that is. It will not go away if we ignore it.
The history of the world is the clash between the forces of relative civility and civilization, and the
barbarians clamoring at the gates. The Iraq war is merely another battle in this ancient and never-ending war. And now, for the first time ever, the barbarians are about to get nuclear weapons. Unless somebody prevents them.
We have four options:
1. We can defeat the Jihad now,.........before it gets nuclear weapons.
2. We can fight the Jihad later,........after it gets nuclear weapons (which may be as early as next year, if Iran’s progress on nuclear weapons is what Iran claims it is).
3. We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the Middle East, now, in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately in, America.
4. Or, we can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad is more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has dominated France and Germany and maybe most of the rest of Europe. It will, of course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier.
If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 20, 2006 at 5:36 AM
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We've invaded 2 countries & allowing the rape &pillage in Lebanon for 9-11
I have no issues with you personally. But you logic suggests India should invade Pakistan for the bombing for the Mumbai trains. I allude to fascism because we cannot be so special that we keep opunishing people-- mostly innocents-- 5 years after 9-11. Then we cry for Jesus to forgive US. WE pleaded with South Africans to forgive the racist-facist whites there. South Africans did; and gave up nuclear weapons too. Double standards is a double-edged sword. hat is the sum of what the dangers shouting loudly inthe world. Today, Ethipopia said it might attck Somaila as preemptive self-defense. See the cancer spreading?
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on July 20, 2006 at 5:23 AM
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YPunday
You should have no issues with me.....I have respected your viewpoints...... I don't have to look any further than 9-11 to understand what we are fighting about........
In your blog, I believe you made a comment about if someone came in your house to harm your family you would react with full force.......well as far as I am concerned they trampled around in my living room on 9-11....and our job is to now make sure they never get a chance to re-group to do it again.....
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 19, 2006 at 4:01 PM
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why Israel is bombing infrasture and endangering thousands of civilians
Because Hezbollah has placed it's own organizational infrastructure in those locations....This is a violation of the Geneva Convention in the sense that when this is done...the rules of war regarding Civilian populations don't necessarily apply. German and Japan did the same thing during WWII.
Is the terror group to be allowed to be safe because they hide in civilian buildings? Israel went so far as to drop leaflets warning the people to clear out....BEFORE they attacked. What should the have done evacuated the indigenious population and then hit the centers of the Hezbollah?
This is war......not a soccer match.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 19, 2006 at 3:55 PM
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Well, Interesting
Yes, we certainly don't want to give in to overarching agression, well-said. Many people, though, wonder why Israel is bombing infrasture and endangering thousands of civilians over the kidnapping of two of their soldiers.
I'm sure you would have something to add - I would like to know more.
Again, way to provide both sides when posting something. I really appreciate your viewpoints.
--Shawn, "Tall & Skinny Politico"
posted by
TallAndSkinnyPoet
on July 19, 2006 at 3:31 PM
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Corbin, remember Katrina.Hopes that Aafat would die; he was THE obstacle
to peace in the Midde East; Our man,Abu Mazin, came after Arafat, and still no "partner for Israel". Elections...still excuses. CEDAR revolution in Lebanon and Syria out, Hooray for Democracy. Now we are killing the same democracy that we asked Syria to leave!! There is nothing PERFECT in the record as Helen Thomas indicated; you got to accept these guys are performing a Katrinia type "rescue" in the world. Opportunity to clean up the bad things, bad guys--- for the American Dream. My issue with you is that you think whatever the non-democratic forces in the White House does is Gospel. Snow-white BS
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on July 19, 2006 at 2:50 PM
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so are you saying that Tony needs protection from ...
Helen Thomas???? Boo-hoo!
OK, Helen, quit being mean to the president's mouthpiece.
posted by
fwmystic
on July 19, 2006 at 1:44 PM
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..cantey
What a horrid image........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 19, 2006 at 12:38 PM
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Corbin
Old Helen, I wonder sometimes if she is still of her right mind! She sure is something else, I bet no one wants to take a question from Helen. Can't say as I blame them!
posted by
Offy
on July 19, 2006 at 12:21 PM
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she regrets that Clinton never got around to groping her
posted by
calmcantey75
on July 19, 2006 at 11:12 AM
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I saw this on Tv live, as it happened. Helen T. listens to no one but herself, rudely interrupts and makes a fool of herself. Tony Snow's dignity won the day!
posted by
reasons
on July 19, 2006 at 11:09 AM
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Not only is Helen Thomas senile and agenda driven she has to be
the ugliest woman in the world.
posted by
sarooster
on July 19, 2006 at 10:38 AM
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Corbin Dallas
Helen represents a lot of people who just can't see the ducks for the feathers, or some such. She is a bully. She is to ask questions, not propose policy. She is an old battle axe. Tony Snow handled her beautifully.
posted by
Justi
on July 19, 2006 at 10:36 AM
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I'm not sure Helen is even still alive! She was a fossil when I was a kid!
Bless her, she is a combative woman and I agree...sliding into senility. And I love Tony Snow!
posted by
VickieJean
on July 19, 2006 at 9:51 AM
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Corbin,
Helen Thomas has always been, shall we say, 'intellectually challenged', but now she's sliding into senility!
Someone should suggest some occupational therapy for her, like crocheting...
posted by
Nautikos
on July 19, 2006 at 8:54 AM
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Sense that is
posted by
bel_1965
on July 19, 2006 at 7:30 AM
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OK this woman makes about as much since
as the idiot who told me that any form of disipline for children was bad for them. That I needed to discuss things with my kids. Nope sorry when a 2 year old is reaching for a hot stove "Discussing" the subject instead of STOPPING the behavior would find her in the ER rather quickly. Sometime you have to do things that you don't want to do because in the end it is the best thing to do.
posted by
bel_1965
on July 19, 2006 at 7:29 AM
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