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Sunnybeach7 -- the control part becomes evident when it is considered how
many fortunes have been built using religion as the mechanism.
The catholic church with its 3 trillion in assets comes to mind.
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 11:32 AM
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TVBlogger
I've heard a few times, so I think some of the reasoning behind this for some is that you don't remember anything in your past after you get into heaven. Therefore you can't feel bad for those loved ones that didn't make it.
So what the hell's the point in even having this life? LOL
I just don't understand the point.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on July 14, 2006 at 10:24 AM
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I agree with TVBlogger...and you, gome...
Why would I want to spend eternity with all the people I can't stand, and none of the ones I really like??
posted by
Schatz
on July 14, 2006 at 10:23 AM
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gome
Even when I still believed a lot of what was in the bible, I knew the numbers would no way provide for very many people to actually "make it" to heaven.
Given that, I knew that it was very unlikely for me to be one of those.
When I changed paths, that was the one real comfort...knowing I wasn't losing anything. lol.
It's so obviously clear that the bible is not a work of love, but more of control and discrimination and pain.
posted by
Afzal_Sunny7
on July 14, 2006 at 10:21 AM
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Xeno-x -- I agree, but when you say this
".....we don't need to be feeding biases toward Arabian peoples." ....but we do need to develop realistic attitudes towards a part of the world that has always remained unstable throughout history. We also have a right to examine the vulnerabilities within our own societies and the prevailing social attitudes that a self declared enemy has used against us.
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 9:53 AM
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okay -- about our crazies vs. their crazies
when they could, our crazies were just as bad.
western governments don't accept that kind of behavior nowadays.
and we don't need to be feeding biases toward Arabian peoples.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 14, 2006 at 9:30 AM
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sannhet - thank you and unfortunately I have to agree
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 9:25 AM
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argee - I never lose sight of the fact that our crazies are nowhere near as
bad as their crazies.
But, by the same token, this doesn't mean that we have to endure all that our crazies would subject our societies to.
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 9:24 AM
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Be thankful for this, Gome
At least they're not killing and beheading non-believers, if you get my drift.
posted by
arGee
on July 14, 2006 at 9:15 AM
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Gome -
Excellent, logical argument. Unfortunately, logic doesn't always work for some.
posted by
sannhet
on July 14, 2006 at 9:04 AM
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TVBlogger - that is the million dollar question
and one that no person believing in the premise of exclusive salvation has an adequate answer for. In the past there was a so called preacher here on Blogit, that proclaimed that only those who believed as she did were going to heaven. Of course in her mind she was a true Christian while all others that did not believe as she did, were not. She even went as far as to say that her parents, siblings and most of her friends were going to hell. As you say, what type of eternal bliss is that? Then if by some obscure chance these knucklheads are right in their ideas of who gets into heaven. . . who would want to go there? Can you imagine spending eternity with some of the insufferable bible thumping pinheads that we have run into in life?
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 8:01 AM
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Another question...
If you get into heaven but everyone you love doesn't... is that really heaven? Would you really be able to be happy knowing your spouse, children, or parents are burning in eternal torment? Would you really be able to spend eternity praising the being that sentenced them to that fate?
posted by
TVBlogger
on July 14, 2006 at 7:33 AM
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posted by
Xeno-x
on July 14, 2006 at 7:26 AM
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Moon_Spirit - hang on - I'm calculating the odds right now
posted by
gomedome
on July 14, 2006 at 7:13 AM
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Gomedome, I wonder if a 'born again' reincarnationist gets into Heaven. Just a thought. 
Moon_Spirit 
posted by
syzygy
on July 14, 2006 at 7:11 AM
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