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GEPRUITT
There is very clearly a difference between 'belief' and 'choice'. You do not choose what you believe. to choose is to have some level of control. I have no control over what I believe. Due to who I am I have to believe as I do. I can not just change my beliefs just because I have gone and decided I don't like them.
I never choose to be a writer. it was who I am and is a driving force in my life. I have no choice in the matter. I have to write. It is my passion. Just as I have no choice I can not believe in God. The true aspects of who we are we really have no choice about. Belief if it is true is not something you choose, but something you follow because it is part of who you are.
I really do not know how you can not see that if you have true beliefs in whatever it is you may believe. if your beliefs are true and are part of who you are, then you will find that you have no choice in it and are not able to just decided to stop believing as you do.
posted by
kooka_lives
on July 18, 2006 at 5:03 PM
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KOOKA
Please believe me when I say that I honestly intended no disrespect either toward you or your beliefs when I made my comment to your post. I was simply trying to address the question you raised in your post. While my own beliefs are obviously exactly opposite to yours, I would actually fight to preserve your rights to your own beliefs, although they disagree with mine! However, when you say:
"I have never once made any kind of choice to not believe in God, I am just unable to believe in God. I have tried to explain this many, many times now and still there are always those who just don't get it."
When you make such a statement as above, can you not see why the average person "just doesn't get it?" What real difference (than one of semantics) is there between a "belief" and a "choice?" Are they not realistically one and the same? As far as the issue in question, where there is a choice between "yes, there is a God" and "no, there is not a God," how could you realistically expect anyone to believe that you have not made a conscious choice of the two, if only because you "are just unable to believe in God"? I, for one, have extreme difficulty with that one. It would be possible, perhaps, but still not likely, that I would have less difficulty if you claimed to be an Agnostic. I may become convinced that you honestly believe you have not made that choice, but I would logically conclude that you actually, in fact, for whatever reasons of your own, have made that choice anyway!
Respectfully,
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on July 17, 2006 at 9:05 PM
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GEPRUITT
I have never once made any kind of choice to not believe in God, I am just unable to believe in God. I have tried to explain this many, many times now ands till there are always those who just do not get it.
I have made no choice in the matter. If I am to be true to who I am I end up not being able to believe in God. it is that simple and yet some comments, such as the one you just made, seems to imply it is something hard to understand for some. Go here and read this post.
posted by
kooka_lives
on July 17, 2006 at 3:40 PM
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Kook,
God is a word. It is whatever you want it to be. Call the steering wheel in your car
God. Then when some smart ass asks if you believe in a God you can honestly say
YES and go on about your business without bothering to discuss the question.
posted by
Jack_Flash
on July 17, 2006 at 1:44 AM
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KOOKA
You are a totally free individual, as far as your thoughts and beliefs are concerned. As far as I know, you would be completely within your rights to have your own "mathematical" system, wherein 1 + 1 might = 3, 4, or 12 if you so desired. However, any such arbitrary system would be toatally useless, even detrimental, to you, since it would violate the laws of natural mathematics to which the rest of us are subject. If there is a God, I think you have only one of two choices: either accept Him or Reject Him. Or you could do as many believers do: convert Him into being what He is not in order to satisfy your own preferences (in other words, deliberately deceive yourself, for whatever imagined good that might bring you). If God does in fact exist, you have no real say in the matter at all! He is YOUR God as surely as He is everyone else's, and you will be ultimately just as subject to His will as the rest of us! Just choosing to believe that He does not exist accomplishes no useful purpose at all as far as I can see, but if that brings you any kind of comfort at all, then go for it!
Gerald
posted by
GEPRUITT
on July 17, 2006 at 1:22 AM
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kooka_lives - you need a God so you won't live your life in darkness
and so you won't be a bah ahha bah ahha a criminal. It's an empty bah ahha bah ahha existence without God. Bah ahha bah ahha God is is love bah ahha baaaaah. What the hell's happening?..... I'm bleeting like a sheep.
posted by
gomedome
on July 11, 2006 at 6:44 PM
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