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Write some more. I'd love to read them.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 12, 2006 at 11:56 AM
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Cringe
Listen. I've been here a little while, and what I've discovered is that if you are honest, sincere, and do not pick fights or criticize others, you are well received no matter what the topic.
The veil is thinning. We should speak about these things. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 12, 2006 at 11:56 AM
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Rcky
Fairies? Absolutely. I've heard Sylvia Browne state that she didn't believe in them until she saw some in Ireland. The driver of the car was not surprised, and said he sees them all the time.
You're not going to lose credibility with me, or anyone else here.
And as for the communication with your mom, I would love to read about it.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 12, 2006 at 11:52 AM
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Hey!
What the hell is going on? LOL
posted by
avant-garde
on July 12, 2006 at 11:49 AM
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Maybe so open-minded the hinge fell off?
That's what I'm afraid of. Rcky you have a reply. Thanks for the forum Avant.
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 6:46 AM
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Avant's blog - used as an unintended host!
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 6:43 AM
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Hey thanks Avant.....for letting us use your place! LOL
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 6:33 AM
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Cringe....
You've got mail! LOL
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 6:33 AM
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Well Factor as I said to Rcky it's a bit of an anti-climax
but it scared the sh*t out of me.
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 6:23 AM
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Ok Ladies...Cringe, I will check my email now....be right back!
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 6:22 AM
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Cringe
Ah, you never know. You may write about things yet... 
I don't have to know your story. I just wanted to let you know that it is not quite as hostile here as one might think 
posted by
FactorFiction
on July 12, 2006 at 6:21 AM
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Let's just say I believe what I see
and hope someone can offer me a rational explanation, is that fair?
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 6:21 AM
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Rcky
Well, I did not think I did. But as you said, some things are not believable until they happen to you and you KNOW they are real. (Or you have completely cracked up...which I did consider, but there have been witnesses to at least parts of things )
I have an open mind, let's say.
posted by
FactorFiction
on July 12, 2006 at 6:19 AM
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Factorfiction - will give Rcky permission to email you
my story, but that's it, I can court public ridicule based on my efforts as they stand without throwing the paranormal in to the mix.
I plan to live in denial for the rest of my days.
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 6:13 AM
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Cringe...you read my mind...that is what I was going to suggest....
yes, please email me! I look forward to it!
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 6:09 AM
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Thanks Factor......Ok here is a test...do you believe in fairies?
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 6:01 AM
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Cringe/Rcky (my apologies for jumping in here -
I happened to see part of your conversation)
Tell your stories! I have been telling mine on and off (actually I am in the middle of one now in Skittles )
I still seem to retain readers when I manage to write(though I mix it up with "rational" stuff lol) You do get a lot of views without comments though
posted by
FactorFiction
on July 12, 2006 at 5:59 AM
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Rcky it'll be a total anti-climax but I'll email you if that's ok?
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 5:56 AM
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Cringe......What did you see? I am curious.
I have studied and taught metaphysics for over twenty years so I have an open mind? If you choose not to say, that's ok, I understand.....but still I'm curious! LOL
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 5:52 AM
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Well Rcky if there was a category here
you could post it in, it would be great.
Myself, I wouldn't feel comfortable and would quite easily be convinced I'm mad, rather than believe what I saw, and regrettably I might not necessarily believe you either, no matter how much we get along.
It's funny, but I never believed that people blocked things out until that few seconds of my life.
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 5:46 AM
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Ok Avant and Cringe.....I need your advice...my story involves
working with nature spirits....fairies...... I have witnesses and proof but if I didn't know what I know I would not believe it either. Most people do not believe in fairies/nature spirits......I don't want to lose my credibility. So should I do a post on my experience? I also have another story with after death communication with my mom.
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 5:40 AM
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Rcky
I have learned a lot from this. There is another dimension, and one can be attuned to whatever aspect of it one chooses. I chose that thing out of my own unresolved anger. It came because of my energy and sensitivity.
I have since learned some methods of protection and I am much more on an even keel.
You are right. I have helped many people above and beyond merely treating their symptoms with drugs.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 12, 2006 at 5:35 AM
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Rcky sometimes people want to explain away things
put them into neat little boxes, and shelve them under scientific.
I got quite a bad reaction to something I once saw in attempts to find a scientific reason for it, so, I would be quite reluctant to tell anyone again. I told my husband, and I don't even think he believes me.
posted by
Cringe
on July 12, 2006 at 5:34 AM
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Wow Avant this has sure stirred the comment section.....so this is the one
you were talking about! This happened when you were a child? There was a movie years ago titled "Entity" about a similar sitution. Just as I believe there are "good" spirits in our world that we cannot see, there are also "evil" spirits inhabiting our dimension. It is the senstitive or empathic people that can see or sense these spirits. There could be a lot of reasons for this evil spirit.....it was connected to the house/property and was more of a poltergist or it simply attached itself to you or a family member. What did you take away from this experience? Sometimes even scary stuff like this has a lesson in it. I have had experiences with a ghost before but not an evil spirit.
Now about your comment on picking up on other's energy, we talked about this before...that is because you are an empath and I am too. Empaths are usually extrememly compassionate people and take on other's energy as their own. What you need to do each day is protect yourself in any way you choose. I sourround myself with white light and say a prayer of protection....It is okay to take on someone's energy to help them but we need to remember to release it or it will make us sick. On a soul level you may have chosen to be a paramedic in order to assist people in their time of need.....you may not have only helped in their physical need but also in their spiritual need. What do you think? What a story!
Ok, now so does this mean I have to tell MY story? I don't know if Blogit is ready for it and like I said people may think I''m nuts! LOL
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on July 12, 2006 at 5:20 AM
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Blanche
Some places, like people, draw us in by our own darkness and endeavor to keep us there.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 2:17 PM
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I'm sure you're right, Avant, to the degree of protection,
I was very vulnerable and unprotected and not in a very good place at all, literally or metaphorically. The house I lived in had a darkness around it, that I closed my mind to and tried to ignore and feel safe in, but the creepiness finally got to me.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 11, 2006 at 1:01 PM
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Blanche
I read tarot a lot, but I don't have any problems as a result of it. I think it has to do with states of mind.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 12:59 PM
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Cringe's story just added to the collection I've already heard, Avant-Garde
about ouija boards. I leave that stuff completely alone now. I've had experiences of my own. I used to be into reading tarot cards a lot, and I am quite sure it opened the door to a lot of my own troubles.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 11, 2006 at 12:51 PM
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Cringe
No, no, no. I hung on your every word! I love these types of accounts. I was thinking of doing some ghost hunting myself when we get moved to Beaufort (an old sea town with rich history).
Thank you for taking the time to share this with me. I was hoping to hear a good tale!
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM
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I keep openminded on these things.
I listened to a story on the radio once that gave me goosebumps and when I explain it it will be lost on people.
You needed to hear this unwitting particpant describe how he initially started out as a U.S. family court judge who retired to Ireland, decided as a hobby to collect ghost stories.
Of course, he discovered quite a few farcical stories, quite a few old tales that he'd heard before. He then received a call from a distressed young English lady who had a sister who had physically declined after a dinner party foray with a ouija board.
This lady's sister, an artist, had rented a cottage on the ring of Kerry. She'd invited her friends (all female as far as I could gather) to a get together for the weekend at this cottage. So they'd lots of wine, lots of conversation, and this girl pulls out a ouija board and they all decide they'd try it for the laugh.
Apparently whatever they asked worked but the letters weren't coming in a proper sequence, they didn't make sense until one of the girls realised it was in Irish. The spirit was asked who it was, it replied in Irish 'master of the house'. I can't properly remember, but the girl thinking it was a prank, asked it why it was here, it replied that it lived there, it was his house, and she invited it to stay.
At this point, I'd pulled over my car to listen to the radio show, because it was evident this gentleman telliing the story had been a sceptic, his manner of storytelling was factual, and it lacked the usual embellishment one would normally hear in these accounts.
After this weekend, the girl had stopped eating properly, stopped cleaning herself, and gone into a decline and lived in isolation.
This gentleman had been asked to visit this girl to encourage her to get help or to assess the situation. On the way to the cottage he'd started to listen to song on a tape/CD in the car, and he'd had it in his head as he approached the cottage.
The girl greeted him, and from what I recollect, completely threw him by singing the song he had been listening to. At that point, he was really scared, and thought to himself I really need a cigarette. The girl looked at him across the table and said 'Oh you can't smoke in here, he doesn't like it'.
This gentleman, left the house after that, and has lost the stomach for his hobby. I wanted to contact the radio station about this as it frightened the living bejasus out of me, as it did out of this man. He had come on the radio show with the attitude of someone who really wanted to be convinced that there was a reasonable explanation for this. I, like him, do not want to find out anymore, true, false or indifferent.
Sorry about the long badly-constructed comment, I was eager to add my 2c.
posted by
Cringe
on July 11, 2006 at 7:03 AM
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Ariala
Thanks.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 6:49 AM
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Wow, intense!
posted by
Ariala
on July 11, 2006 at 6:35 AM
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Blanche
I think the way to deflect negative energy is by not resisting it. Welcome it with love and compassion and it turns on itself and becomes nothing.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 6:34 AM
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Moon
You and I share a great deal. Psychically speaking, having a higher vibration carries with it all the suffering of living amongst negativity. Believe it or not, hearing your voice helps calm me, and reassure me that I am not crazy. I am strengthened more by speaking than fearing what might happen, lest I founder.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 6:33 AM
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Vickie
Thank you. I'm glad to have the opportunity to inspire commentary. All are welcome here. Blogging can be a great experience, if used wisely.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 6:28 AM
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Isa
You have hit upon a basic truth. Your words are profoundly simple.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 11, 2006 at 6:27 AM
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Blanche, 
posted by
syzygy
on July 10, 2006 at 12:02 PM
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Understood, Moon
I fully understand the concept of not wanting to attrract negative energy. I feel it as well. I know it may seem at times as though I go out of my way to be a lightning rod for such energies, by not maintaining a neutral stance and going with the flow, but at times I feel it is a price I pay for having a certain awareness.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 10, 2006 at 11:55 AM
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Hi Blanche, I just happened to passing through the neighborhood and saw your comment. I'll think about this. I don't care what people think about me or about what I say. What I don't like is dealing with the negativity which is then directed towards me. Energy is real and I am VERY sensitive. One of the reasons that I try to remain low key and anonymous (it's totally out of character for me to be on something like Blogit) is to avoid these mental and energetic currents. There's enough of negative stuff just floating around without making oneself a direct target. So....I'll ruminate on the whole issue.......And Avant, I re-read my comment....there was an unfortunate choice of words....it sounded in one part like I was talking about you....probably because I used the word "you" 
...I wasn't talking about you.....I meant "you" in the sense of "one". Actually, I can see that you (you, Avant) are very familiar with what you are doing. Moon_Spirit
posted by
syzygy
on July 10, 2006 at 11:52 AM
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Wow, I stopped back by here and read Moon Spirit's comment
I wish you would write more on the subject about your experiences, Moon, but I fully understand why you would choose not to. I'm choosing my words and topics carefully these days as well.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 10, 2006 at 11:44 AM
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Avant, Excellent post. I have a lot of experience in this area - a lot; my own and in working with others. I'm hesitant to discuss any of this on Blogit as I have no interest in getting involved in opinions, debates - all of the mental chatter and exchange. There are worlds within worlds within worlds - and your beliefs alone do not qualify you to travel these worlds. As with any journey, one starts with a set of beliefs but, you learn things along the way that only experience can teach. I could offer what seem to me to be valuable insights gained from experience......things which I have learned and which have helped me and many, many people with whom I have worked. In fact, I received a call at 4:00 a.m. today from someone who had been trapped in an astral hell and I assisted in the extraction. But, all of this flies in the face of what many want to believe and what people seem to think that their religion teaches. OK....I've talked to much....going again from being silent to too wordy. Moon_Spirit
posted by
syzygy
on July 10, 2006 at 9:50 AM
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I loved reading the responses to this particular post...
Your writing inspires a lot of comment. You have a beautiful, vivid style that I really enjoy. This one gave me chills!
posted by
VickieJean
on July 10, 2006 at 8:13 AM
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Avant -
Boy did you say a lot with that last sentance! Every person who can sense beyond this reality has a responsibility to use his/her gifts to help move the world forward.
posted by
sannhet
on July 10, 2006 at 7:24 AM
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i don't know...
what to think about those experiences...all i can say is that they seem to be real for ppl who experience them....
posted by
Marshallengraved
on July 10, 2006 at 2:34 AM
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Passionflower
I've done some praying as you describe with limited success.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 10, 2006 at 1:04 AM
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Avonna
Thanks for stopping in.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 10, 2006 at 1:03 AM
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Bright Irish
Yes, it was a ouija board.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 10, 2006 at 1:03 AM
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...yes... we tangle with our inner... and sometimes other demons...
posted by
MasonGarrett
on July 10, 2006 at 12:56 AM
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an interesting perpective
posted by
Avonna
on July 9, 2006 at 11:20 PM
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Avant...Not sure if you're a Christian...
But if you are, you should be praying for the sick. God is giving you this knowledge of other people's sickness and disease, along with an anointing to pray and see them recover completely.
It's an amazing gift that alot of preachers would kill for. You should study 1 Cor 12, especially verse 28...Gifts of Healing.
posted by
Passionflower
on July 9, 2006 at 6:11 PM
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avant-garde
There is much to think about in your post. I'm wondering if the game was a weggie board, I kept thinking about this the whole time I was reading.
posted by
BrightIrish
on July 9, 2006 at 5:13 PM
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Blanche
You're right.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 4:11 PM
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Ciel
Thanks!
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 4:09 PM
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Awareness is always the first step to change, Avant
posted by
Blanche.
on July 9, 2006 at 2:28 PM
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More power to ya, A-G!
posted by
Ciel
on July 9, 2006 at 2:17 PM
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Blanche
It's hard to conceive more than it is to recognize yourself doing it. Sometimes, when I'm blaming, there's a part of me that is recognizing what's really happening. It has a way of defusing everything.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 2:14 PM
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Avant-Garde, Projecting made sense to me when I read Carl Jung
The more one represses the dark side of one's nature, the more intensity the dark side possesses. I also had to face my own dark side. Darkness attrracts darkness, I believe from experience.
It's the scapegoating that I mind.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 9, 2006 at 2:12 PM
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Blanche
I also think that there is ingrained in our subconscious minds that if it is the least bit unknown, it is dark and foreboding. In my case, I was the very dark one. It might have been nothing more than my projection onto it. Sometimes, I think that we project all the time, and very seldom realize it!
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 2:02 PM
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elysia
Well, hello again! I'm glad you're back. I think I will move more in this direction now. I need to hone my writing more. Thank you for the wonderful compliments, as well.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 1:59 PM
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back from hiatus
hi avante,
havn't been around in awhile, and boy, has your writing expanded! i can see a lot more of YOU in it! your prose is wonderful!
btw, i read what you said about know it all's etc. how true. i wanted a big voice on blog - now not really sure what i want.
i see it as an opportunity to structure my thoughts, perchance to write a book, or something to that effect some day.
oh yeah, nice work on the tree entry!
posted by
astromuffy
on July 9, 2006 at 1:48 PM
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That's an interesting take I hadn't considered, Avant-Garde,
I've read that the Chinese believe that the soul or spirit travels during sleep, and that they have certain ancient practices to protect and facilitate it's return. However, this felt like something malevolent, I don't know what to make of it, I'm just glad it's stopped.
It is acknowledge it or go mad. That's what it felt like to me: overwhelming stimulus coming from other sources.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 9, 2006 at 1:38 PM
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Blanche
I heard renowned psychic Sylvia Browne tell a questioner that it was actually her own spirit hesitating to reenter her body as she lay sleeping. I've often heard that our essence leaves when we sleep. This is probably the most plausible thing I've heard yet, as to an explanation.
She also stated that no one gets possessed. I think now that authentic 'possessions' are merely those who are psychically gifted who are channeling, and don't know a thing about it. It's either develop one's mediumistic talent or go mad, I suppose.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 1:35 PM
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Avant-Garde, I had a series of sleep paralysis dreams, I never saw the
presence you described (I'm glad, because it sounds terrifying), but my body was paralyzed, but I felt like I was awake (a lucid dream), in my own room, held down by a malevolent force, which I fought with all my strength, which turned out to be inadequate.
I started floating around the room, and then I called out Jesus myself, reciting the 23rd psalm, which was totally unlike me as I had no faith or religious training, and was released. The dreams started in an old house where I was a student, and continued on and morphed over the years until they were less frghtening, but they are a big factor in my convresion to Christ.
posted by
Blanche.
on July 9, 2006 at 1:10 PM
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Isa
Yes. I saw a show on sleep paralysis on Discovery Channel. Some of those who described these things swear that it was no dream. I'm still unsure exactly what took place.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 11:32 AM
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mysteria
You're right. But, I think there are subtle differences if you've experienced them all.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 11:31 AM
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Passionflower
It interferes with my job sometimes, as I begin to experience the suffering of those I'm around. I get very nauseated and I start sweating.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 11:31 AM
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Rumored
I think it would have happened anyway, given the circumstances.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 11:30 AM
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bel
That is very kind of you to say. Thank you.
posted by
avant-garde
on July 9, 2006 at 11:29 AM
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I have watched sth about that theme...
on TV...ppl who talk about those experiences say that they were nightmares in their lives...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on July 9, 2006 at 10:49 AM
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I've had sleep paralysis episodes, which at first seem very frightening.
But once I realize what is happening I calm down and go back to sleep. My mind is so strange though...it is very hard to distinguish between what is real, what is a dream, what I have spoken, what I have thought....
posted by
mysteria
on July 9, 2006 at 9:21 AM
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I agree...playing with stuff like ouiji boards and seances
Is dangerous. Thank God there is a name above every name that is named in heaven, on earth, and under the earth.
I am an empath too and often hear from those who've passed over. I should write a post about it. It's an interesting, very misunderstood subject.
posted by
Passionflower
on July 9, 2006 at 7:27 AM
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this is one of the reasons I have never messed with a "ouija" board....
posted by
Rumor
on July 9, 2006 at 6:26 AM
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Avant
This is a good one!!!
LOL! Granted they are all quite good but this one is exceptional.
posted by
bel_1965
on July 9, 2006 at 4:41 AM
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