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franciscan - you first line was about the only true portion of your comment

The pope is only a religious leader to those who do not see him for the ridiculous medieval anachronism that he is and represents. Maintaining a position against birth control and family planning in favor of having unlimited children with government assistance, are the ravings of a head in the sand lunatic. We could well feed the entire earth's populace if we did stop warring and distributed the world's resources more effectively but that does not change two important realities. The first reality is that it will never happen. Next, this is only true until the population of this planet outgrows its food supply. The good news in all of this is exactly what popey boy is complaining about. There are mature trends underway in the developed countries limiting family sizes by voluntary family planning. The over population trend has abated marginally in the last few years in the societies that consume the most. The pope doesn't like the idea because this means fewer tithing recruits.

posted by gomedome on June 28, 2006 at 7:15 PM | link to this | reply

Gomedome,

If we could stop warring and share resources better no one would have to starve.

So, the Vicar of Christ on earth who is also the world's greatest theologian can keep his "nonsensical and totally unrealistic opinions to himself"? I love the can keep part. Do e-mail the Vatican pronto and enlighten the poor soul about how and when he should speak. He's obviously a German shepherd who needs to go to the gomedome obedience school.

I thought you said nopeace was the comedian around here? Thanks for the yuks.

posted by franciscan on June 28, 2006 at 6:13 PM | link to this | reply

cantey_1975 - Why thank you - I like to think that is what I'm doing but

I recognize that my own bias sometimes comes shining through.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 9:55 PM | link to this | reply

Gome, to clarify my last remark

I believe your intention ( other than a writing endevour) is to build a working relationship with all types of people via the use of honest insight,sarcasm and humor. But if silly people allow themselves to become offended and go on the attack so be it. Sort of like let the chips fall where they may. Its a rational way of weeding out the loons who hijack christianity for there own shortcomings and insecurities ( and sometimes illness).

posted by calmcantey75 on June 26, 2006 at 9:35 PM | link to this | reply

thats why I enjoy reading you

the way you blend humor and stinging appraisels. But there is always a good joke intertwined in your writing that can really bridge gaps rahter than burn bridges.

posted by calmcantey75 on June 26, 2006 at 9:14 PM | link to this | reply

cantey_1975 - you may be the only person that got the joke

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 9:07 PM | link to this | reply

the title of this post is just too funny.

posted by calmcantey75 on June 26, 2006 at 9:02 PM | link to this | reply

franciscan - I see that you are supporting the nonsensical party line

One trip to a part of the world that is over populated would cure you of that. Mother Theresa may have been a candidate to become a saint but there was never anything on her resume that included social planning. There is nothing that you can say to people that aren't smart enough to agree that the world's resources are finite except what I have said in this posting. The pope and any other foreign religious leaders can keep their nonsensical and totally unrealistic opinions to themselves.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 8:43 PM | link to this | reply

Fearmongers,

"Saying there are too many children is like saying there are too many flowers".

Mother Teresa

posted by franciscan on June 26, 2006 at 5:43 PM | link to this | reply

Gomedome, blogit pulpit feeling a bit small today?

posted by franciscan on June 26, 2006 at 5:31 PM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - that's the entire beef in a nutshell

Anyone against birth control and family planning in the 21st century has their head tucked firmly up their @$$.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 4:50 PM | link to this | reply

TVBlogger - my issue with these guys that are the heads of major religions

is one of sovereignty concerns.

When you think about it, this man is attempting to orchestrate domestic social agendas to suit the needs of his own institution within a foreign country. As if we need some celibate knucklehead interfering with our country's domestic family planning.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 4:48 PM | link to this | reply

well yeah they are

sort of advocates of large families.

maybe they'd like the birth rate to be like it is in Central America -- now there's a story for you -- a church against any form of birth cxontrol -- the reality is beyond the imagination.

posted by Xeno-x on June 26, 2006 at 4:48 PM | link to this | reply

TVBlogger.....it's all in the puff of white smoke!

posted by syzygy on June 26, 2006 at 3:05 PM | link to this | reply

At the recent election of the Pope...

I remember thinking how crazy it was that one day he's just a dude... then a puff of white smoke comes out of a chimney and suddenly he's God's representative on earth. How does that work?

posted by TVBlogger on June 26, 2006 at 3:02 PM | link to this | reply

RckyMtnActivist - I remember that - it caused quite an uproar at the time

But I don't think it would have the same effect today. I really do think that more people view the pope as some meddling old religious leader from a foreign country. There is also the fact that the catholic church has a lot to answer for in my country. Not all of their lawsuits have been settled here. There are many of us that are just sick of these people.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 1:47 PM | link to this | reply

WhiteJedi - adoption is something that our society should really take

a look at in a broader sense than it is now.

As a species and barring some unforeseen plague or disaster, we will never be faced with extinction solely from gestation period versus lifespan. Therefore we should examine all possible means of providing the best quality of life for all persons born onto this planet. Overpopulation is a real problem, as is neglecting those in need. This rock we live on ain't gonna be big enough soon if we continue in our entrenched mindsets. Unfortunately it seems that we need to suffer war, societal setbacks or calamity to change the way we do things.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 1:44 PM | link to this | reply

Gome......

Yup, just goes to show how out of touch he is! BTW, do you remember "Pope on a rope?" LOL

posted by RckyMtnActivist on June 26, 2006 at 1:29 PM | link to this | reply

Right on Gnomedome!

Coming from a large family myself I can appreciate the expense of child rearing. How my parents kept their sanity I don't know. I agree that if the Pope wants to encourage more childbirth he should be willing to fit the bill. The Mormon Church encourages large families too. The intentions are good. The people themselves have good hearts. I would have to say from my experience that the children are well cared for. Basically, the idea is to bring as many children as possible into the "Kingdom of God" or, more realisticly, the Church. In all honesty I think people need to have less kids not more. And if they do want more children I think adoption is a better choice. There are so many children that need good homes. I have to say the Mormon Church does have a good adoption system. If nothing else, the Church does take care of its own.

posted by WhiteJedi on June 26, 2006 at 1:25 PM | link to this | reply

Sunnybeach7 - I have always had a great deal of trouble just listening to

these people.

For those of us who are living the realities of modern day life, having a religious leader attempt to inject our lives with a self serving medievel mindset is something that should be exposed for what it is. A religious leader whos empire is in decline wants his followers to produce more tithing butts to fill the his pews. Forget the social costs, forget the real life implications, forget reality . . gimme a break.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 12:03 PM | link to this | reply

I agree, that's just sick.

Being a single parent, I know it's no easy task to raise children.
It's hard to find resources when you need them, and for someone like me, even if I was able to work, I would pay 4 times as much in childcare than I would make.
I would likely have to make $30 per hour to even make it out of the poverty level.

And this freak is encouraging, no promoting for people to have more children? To increase higher probability of poverty?

posted by Afzal_Sunny7 on June 26, 2006 at 11:28 AM | link to this | reply

the implications are staggering

I never thought of the sum total of all their assets.

posted by calmcantey75 on June 26, 2006 at 10:28 AM | link to this | reply

cantey_1975 - that's a guestimate of net worth

It includes the few billion that the catholic church has on hand in cash but also takes into account their vast real estate holdings and the treasure of antiquities that they own. The antiquities are the hardest part of portfolio evaluation. Like what is the Sistine Chapel worth? What is the value of countless precious art works with historical significance? . . .Despite the shrinkage in value of real estate holdings and the numerous lawsuits filed against them for molestaion etc, over recent years. . . . 3 trillion could be low.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 10:24 AM | link to this | reply

a few trillion clams?

in the bank? Or stuffed in suitcases?

posted by calmcantey75 on June 26, 2006 at 10:16 AM | link to this | reply

GD: AMEN!......ooooops......er......I mean: RIGHT ON!!! Samhain_Moon

posted by syzygy on June 26, 2006 at 10:05 AM | link to this | reply

Samhain_Moon - I just have a big problem with anyone who thinks that

there is nothing wrong with encouraging unrestricted childbirth.

And then to add that we should be demanding government support for these children is ludicrous. If you can't raise them yourself don't have them has always been a much more socially responsible premise. There are enough people in this world that do not adhere to these responsibilities that are taxing government resources already, to encourage more people to do it is unconscionable. But that is what you get from the leader of an outfit that invented the most effective baby indoctrinating ploy of all time in original sin. Give the newborns an invisible plague with the only cure being baptism which is also conveniently an indoctrination ceremony. And people are still buying into this , no wonder they are worth so much money.

posted by gomedome on June 26, 2006 at 10:00 AM | link to this | reply

GD, You make two excellent points! 1) Yes, I believe that every Pope should have a Pope Cave and this Pope in particular; in fact, this Pope looks as if he might be allergic to sunlight. 2) That kind of wealth is obscene (ummmmm.....dare I say 'evil') unless it is used for the welfare of mankind. I mean, didn't JHC teach something like that? Samhain_Moon